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Untold Story of Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, inked by the USSR and Nazi Germany on August 23, 1939, is now used by Western "experts" and mainstream media to accuse the Soviet Union of "colluding" with Hitler and "betraying" his would be
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On August 23, 1939 the USSR and Nazi Germany singed a Treaty of Non-aggression, also known as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact; the document still triggers fierce debate, prompting the West to accuse the USSR of "colluding" with Hitler on the eve of the Second World War.

Furthermore, since 2008 on this day European countries mark "European Day of Remembrance for Victims of Stalinism and Nazism."

"It's an annual event [August 23], anxiously awaited by western Russophobic propagandists, to remind us of the iniquitous Soviet role in starting World War II. Nowadays of course when the mainstream media say "Soviet," they want you to think about Russia and its
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. Western "journalists" can't make up their minds about Putin: sometimes he's another Hitler, sometimes another Stalin," Professor Michael Jabara Carley of the University of Montreal emphasizes.

Curiously enough, Western "experts" and mass media remain silent about the fact that most major European powers had signed similar treaties with Adolf Hitler earlier than the Soviet Union did.

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that Never Was

For instance, Poland, the avowed "victim" of the Soviet-Germany non-aggression pact, had inked a non-aggression treaty with Nazi Germany on January 26, 1934.

"During the 1930s Poland played a spoiler's role. It was a far-right quasi-dictatorship, anti-Semitic and sympathetic to fascism. In 1934, as the USSR raised the alarm about Hitler, Poland signed a non-aggression pact in Berlin. Who stabbed who in the back?" Carley asked rhetorically.

While pointing the finger at the USSR for moving into territories of "Poland" (when no state of Poland existed any longer after German invasion of September 1, 1939) some Western historians are again demonstrating a peculiar form of amnesia, apparently forgetting that these very territories — Western Ukraine and Western Belarus — were annexed by Poland during the Polish-Soviet War (1919 — 1921). The war was unilaterally unleashed by Warsaw against the USSR, torn and devastated by the civil war.

In general, the USSR returned its own territories — with the exception of the small piece of Bukovina — that were grabbed by other European players during the chaos of the Revolution of 1917 and the Civil War of the 1920s, Russian historian, politician and diplomat Nataliya Narotchnitskaya noted in her book
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i S Kem My Voyevali" ("Who We Were Fighting and What For").

"Until 1939, Poland did all it could to sabotage Soviet efforts to build an anti-Nazi alliance, based on the World War I anti-German coalition of France, Britain, Italy, and in 1917 the United States… In 1934-1935, when the USSR sought a mutual assistance pact with France, Poland attempted to obstruct it," Carley emphasized.

But what about Britain and France? Surprisingly, in the 1930s neither London nor Paris hastened to join the USSR's anti-German coalition. Carley pointed to the fact that it was Maksim Litvinov, the Soviet Commissar for Foreign Affairs, backed by the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, "who first conceived of the '
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' against Hitler." However, "Litvinov's coalition became the
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that Never Was."

Historians agree that European conservative elites viewed Adolf Hitler a less "evil" than Soviet Russia. Moreover, according to American economist Guido Giacomo Preparata, for the British and American establishment Nazism was seen as a driving force that could dismantle the USSR, thus far finishing what was started by World War I — complete dissolution of the former Russian Empire.

"To Churchill, [Stanley ]Baldwin [the UK's prime minister] would thus sum it up in July 1936: 'If there is any fighting in Europe to be done, I should like to see the Bolshies [Bolsheviks] and the Nazis doing it'," Preparata wrote in his book "Conjuring Hitler: How Britain and America Made the Third Reich."

Meanwhile European and American elites were not only unwilling to establish any alliances with the Soviet Union, but also poured money into Nazi Germany's economy, facilitating the rise of the
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Prestigious British arms manufacturer Vickers-Armstrong supplied heavy weaponry to Berlin, while US companies Pratt & Whitney, Douglas,
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, to name but a few, provided German firms —
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and others — with patents, military secrets and state-of-art airplane engines, Preparata pointed out.

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The Munich Betrayal of 1938
The final accord of this game was the Munich Agreement signed by the major powers of Europe (Britain, Germany, France, Italy) excluding the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia, on September 30, 1938, that permitted Nazi Germany to annex northern and western border regions of Czechoslovakia.

Embarrassingly, British archival documents released in 2013 exposed that the UK not only betrayed Czechoslovakia by allowing Hitler to invade it, but also voluntarily handed over nearly $9 million worth of gold that belonged to Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany. The Czechoslovak golden bullions were immediately sent to Hitler in March 1939, when he seized Prague.

The Munich Betrayal of September 29-30, 1938 is the actual date of the beginning of the Second World War, Director of the Center for Russian Studies at the Moscow University for Humanities and the Institute of System Strategic Analysis, historian and publicist Andrei Fursov underscores, citing Churchill's letter to Major Ewal von Kleist, a member of the German resistance group and emissary of the German General Staff, just before Hitler's seizure of Czechoslovakia:

"I am sure that the crossing of the Czechoslovak frontier by German armies or aircraft will bring about a renewal of world war… Such a war once started, would be fought out like the last [WWI] to the bitter end, and one must consider not what might happen in the first few months, but where we should all be at the end of the third or fourth year."

And that is not all. Incredible as it may seem, the British government actually prevented a plot aimed against Adolf Hitler in 1938. A group of German high-ranking military officials planned to arrest Hitler at the moment Nazi Fuhrer ordered the attack on Czechoslovakia. Inexplicably, the British political establishment not only refused to help the resistance but ruined its plans.

In his essay "Finest Hour Regime Change, 1938: Did Chamberlain 'Miss the Bus'?" British author Michael McMenamin narrated: "there is no historical doubt that the German resistance repeatedly warned the British of Hitler's intention to invade Czechoslovakia in September 1938… In response, however, the Chamberlain government took every diplomatic step it could… to undermine Hitler's opposition."

Whatever Chamberlain's motivation was, instead of beating the drums over Hitler's aggression in Europe, on September 28, 1939 he "proposed [Fuhrer] a five-power conference between Britain, Germany, Czechoslovakia, France and Italy, where, Chamberlain assured Hitler, Germany could 'get all essentials without war and without delay'," McMenamin wrote citing official documents, and added that Chamberlain also turned a blind eye to the fact that Germany excluded Czechoslovakia from the conference.

After the four powers agreed to accept German occupation of Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland before any plebiscite and coerced the Czechs to go along, Chamberlain and Hitler inked the British-German Non-aggression Agreement, the author underscored.

Interestingly enough, Professor Carley narrated that during the Czechoslovak crisis Poland (the would-be "victim" of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact) demanded that if "Hitler was to get the Sudeten territories, Poland should have the Teschen district [in Czechoslovakia]. In other words, if Hitler gets his booty, we Poles want ours."

So, who colluded with whom? Who were the betrayers?

Why Is West Demonizing Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact?
According to Andrei Fursov, in Munich the four powers created a "proto-NATO bloc" that was actually aimed against the USSR. Czechoslovakia's industrial complex was meant to facilitate the growth of the German military might and ensure its ability to launch a big war against "Bolshies" in the East, in order to extend the German Lebensraum. And European elites were interested in this war, expected to exhaust both Germany and Russia.

In light of this, the only move to undermine this plan and postpone its realization was to conclude a similar non-aggression pact between the USSR and Germany. Furthermore, the delay helped the Soviet Union to accumulate its resources in the face of an inevitable invasion from the West.

Michael Jabara Carley cited Winston Churchill, then First Lord of the Admiralty, who said on October 1, 1939, in an interview to the British national broadcaster that Soviet action "was clearly necessary for the safety of Russia against the Nazi menace."

Why then is the West making every effort to demonize the Soviet-German Non-aggression Treaty, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? Professor Carley noted that it is a vain attempt to white-wash Europe's grave mistakes of the 1930s, namely the incapability (or unwillingness?) to halt the rise of Nazi Germany and to establish an anti-Hitler alliance in the
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"These days western governments and their 'inspired' journalists, if one can call them journalists, don't worry about 'tendentious' argument when it comes to blackening the Russian Federation. It's anything goes. Should we let them equate the roles of the USSR and Nazi Germany for starting World War II? Certainly not. It was Hitler who intended war, and the
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, especially the British, who repeatedly played into his hands, rejecting Soviet proposals for collective security and pressuring France to do the same," Professor Carley stressed.



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Two German members of the Organisation Todt (involved in the construction of the Atlantic Wall) are sitting on the Spitfire brought down on the wet sands at Calais by Flying Officer Peter Cazenove. It had been hit by a single bullet from a German Dornier bomber. The plane was consumed by the sandy beach and remained there for 40 years.
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One of the earliest Spitfires ever to go into action will go on sale for £2.5 million after spending 40 years buried in sand on the French beach it crashed on.
The Mark 1 version of Reginald Mitchell's famous design was among the first built in March 1940 but Spitfire P9374, once flown by an airman involved in the Great Escape, never made it to the Battle of Britain as it crash-landed in May 1940.

The fighter plane, dubbed the ballerina because of its grace in the skies, was being piloted by Flying Officer Peter Cazenove over Dunkirk when it was hit by a single bullet from a German Dornier bomber.
He was then captured by the Nazis and taken to the Stalag Luft III prisoner of war camp, famous for The Great Escape.

The plane became consumed by the sandy beach and remained there for the next 40 years. In 1980 the wreckage was discovered when part of it was spotted poking out from its sandy grave.
It was corroded and covered in barnacles but amazingly still intact. The plane was dragged from the beach and taken to the Musée de l'Air in Paris.

Sadly, Cazenove died just a few weeks before the Spitfire was discovered. Shortly before he passed away he is even said to have told his wife ‘I wonder whatever happened to my Spitfire'.

Spitfire P9374 is now flyable once more and will take to the skies again at IWM Duxford in the VE Day Anniversary Air Show on May 23rd and 24th 2015.


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Three troopers of the 507th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 17th Airborne Division taking a break after 5 days frontline fighting.

From left to right : Pvt William H. Sandy (ASN 13032007) from Charlottesville, VA, Sgt Dehaven Nowlin (ASN 15046241) from Goshen, KY and Pvt Howard Fredericks (ASN 39241668) from Los Angeles, CA., near Essen (Germany) 10th of April 1945

'Operation Varsity' (24th March 1945) was a successful joint American, British and Canadian airborne operation that took place toward the end of World War II. Involving more than 16,000 paratroopers and several thousand aircraft, it was the largest airborne operation in history to be conducted on a single day and in one location.

The XVIII Airborne Corps was selected to assist in the Rhine River crossing in the vicinity of Wesel, just north of the Ruhr on March 24, 1945. Operation Varsity would be the last full scale airborne operation of the war. The 17th Division with the 507th spearheaded the assault and dropped at the southern edge of the Diersfordter Wald (Diersfordt Forest), three miles NW of Wesel. The 507th performed well and captured their objectives. The Medal of Honor was awarded to Pfc George J. Peters posthumously for his single handed assault on a German machine gun position, eliminating the position and allowing his fellow troopers to gather their equipment and capture their first objective. The 17th Airborne suffered 1300 casualties in the operation. The 17th then moved through Germany and on the 10th of April, the division captured Essen, the home of Krupps Steelworks.

After Germany’s surrender, the 17th Airborne was shipped home and deactivated in September 1945.


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Medics of the US. 5th Infantry Division examining GI clothing found with German-captured equipment after the liberation of the area, near Diekirch in Luxembourg on the 20th of January 1945.

They are (L to R) Pfc Howard G. Lepcofker, NY, T/4 Francis A. Dafeo, Philadelphia PA and Pfc Harold C. Graham, Cleveland, Ohio.

General Patton's US 5th Inf. Div., had crossed the frozen Sauer River on their way to liberate Diekirch from the Germans on the night of the 18th January 1945.


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A-34 Comet Mk1 tank 'St. Andrew' of the 2nd Fife and Forfar Yeomanry, 29th Armoured Brigade, 11th Armoured Division, crossing the River Weser at Petershagen, Germany, 7 April 1945.
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The Cruiser, Comet I (A34) was a British cruiser tank that first saw use near the end of the Second World War. It was designed to provide greater anti-tank capability to Cromwell tank squadrons. It was armedwith the 77mm HV which was effective against late war German tanks and a superior weapon to the 75mm KwK 42 gun of the Panther when firing APDS rounds.
As a development of the Cromwell, it was an interim design before the Centurion tank.

The Comet saw post-war combat during the Korean war, and remained in British service until 1958. Comets sold to other countries continued in some cases to operate into the 1980s.



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Cyrenaica, Libya, Summer/Autumn 1941: East Sector’s Commander of 'Aeronautica della Libia', Generale di Brigata Aerea Ferdinando Raffaelli, ready to take-off in a Macchi MC.200 of the Italian Regia Aeronautica’s 373rd Squadriglia, 150th Gruppo Autonomo Caccia “Asso di Bastoni” (Ace of Clubs). On the fuselage under the cockpit the rank’s insignia of Raffaelli: one red star over a light blue background.

Gen. Rafaelli (1899-1981), a former officer in the Royal Italian Army Engineers Corps, led the Reggia Aeronautica’s Technical-Military Studies division from March 1942 until the armistice in September 1943. During this time he was responsible for the design and development of a radio-control system that allowed the Regia Aeronautica to be the first air force in the world to employ a radio-controlled ‘flying bomb’ operationally, when, on August 13, 1942, it sent a much-modified SM.79 against ships of the British Fleet lying off the Algerian coast. Although unsuccessful, the attempt encouraged Rafaelli to urge the development of a cheaper radio-controlled aircraft: the A.R.4. Test flights started in June 1943 but ended with Italy’s surrender in September. Rafaelli continued to serve in the post-war Air Force reaching the post of Chief of Staff.


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Afrika Korps soldiers examining a British tank destroyed M3. North of Africa. 1942 ...
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Sicilians partisans raising a flag of the Kingdom of Italy celebrate the arrival of the troops of General estadounienses. Patton. Palermo, Sicily Italy. July 1943 ..
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French volunteers of the 33rd Reg. Grenadier Div. SS Charlemagne, are photographed while waiting to be taken to the rear. These men were later executed on charges of treason by a committee of the Army of Free France, the head of General Leclerc. Bad Reichenhall, Bavaria, Germany. May 8, 1945.
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Italian Bersaglieri marching through the streets of Dubrovnik. Dubrovnik, Dubrovnik-Neretva County, Yugoslavia. April 1941.
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