Who here played Command and Conquer Generals?

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  1. Ender Wiggin
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    Does anyone have any interest in the representation of the PLA, USA and GLA forces? I'm interested in how China is represented as the player with all the nukes, America with its airforce and the Terrorists and their various tactics.
     
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    - China has no-first-use nuclear policy
    - China no longer has Red Guards with SKS rifles
    - I don't know if there are military hackers in PLA, maybe there are but they probably would be hacking for enemy intel rather than stealing cash
    - China likely has super high security during parades
    - Propaganda towers are probably real but I don't think the CCP want the world to view them that way even though it's true
    - The peasants and farmers wearing stereotypical Chinese straw hats are not that commonly found in cities, certainly not in military parades. They give the impression that China is poor. Although per-capita wise that is true but the CCP does not like that portrayal
    - Tactics in PLA side usually involves tank rushes or human wave attacks, because bonuses are added to fire rate if you do this. PLA now fashions "limited war in high tech environment" strategy

    That's probably why Generals is banned in China
     
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    yes in that game china has extreme natinalism you hear it in the things they say when you click on them that game has an expansion pack command and conquer genrals zero hour in wich china even has a nuke genral and the americans have an air force genral the air force genral can only build huvees and infatry for his land forces but his air force is amazing the chinese have a MiG in this game as thier aircraft it is absolutley wiped out by a king raptor a king raptor in that game (a 3 rank vetran) could take out 6 MiGs i think the americans even the normal american army re fering to the original command and conquer genrals have massive air force advanteg even having an super sonic bomber that can strike any target on the map(but they WILL NOT return alive)they also have assult helicopters and f 177a night hawks that are good the americans can also call in many timed air strikes including an A 10 warthog strike and "mother of all bombs" and leaflet drops(the GLA SUCK IN THIS GAME AND I WILL NOT MENTION THEM)when you play America vs china the chinese team can build MASSIVE amounts of tanks (that look like t-55s)and overlord tanks (very powerful)and have bonuses like battle hord wich increase their units powers as their numbers grow they are of course less powerful than American units but if your America u may simply be overwhelmed by MASSIVE tank and infantry charges a rely good chinese player will draw an American player out of defensive positions(better suited for an American player beacause of thier better tanks and their ability (in zero hour)to build fire bases the chinese player will do this by using inferno cannons and that awesome chinese nuke cannon:D i prefer playing as the American team and i once saw 250+ battle master tanks followed by un countable red gaurd infantry units when u click to train one 2 pop out (fully upgraded with that natinal ism bonus) charging at my 75 or so crusaders and paledin tanks wich were also fully up graded so i sent out my airforce my raptors took out the guys MiGs easily and my f117a night hawks and aura bombers took out probably 50 tanks then those blasted chinese gatling tanks took out my damedged my bombers wich would manually repair in thier hangers(to long this tank charge was commin in fast!)so the next thing to engage them was my 6 fire bases with anti tank troops garrisonned inside of them they took out maybe another 30 or so before they were just over whelmed then my tank force entered the fray so they still outnumbered me by probably 100 hundred tanks mine engaged first with farther range and took out 10 or so before the chinese tanks engaged it was over soon after wards my tanks were just over whelmed by the chinese tanks even with my anti tank troops mixed in(they were taken out by the 300+ red gaurd behind the tanks did i mention the chinese have apc's?but id say id reduced the 250 or so down to maybe 110 the damage i put on those red gaurd is uncountable but this rarely happens the Americans and chinese seem matched maybe with america having a little advatage as for the way teams are presented is that the chinese are really willing to go die for china (when the MiGs are shot down the pilots scrwem FOR CHINA!!!)while the americans seem like they try to survive
     
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    C and C generals is a fun game but it is still a game. The physics are horrible. Once i had setup an anti air defense with migs and they succeeded in shooting down my friends fighters(probably because he ordered them to attack my base and not my planes) however because migs shot naplam weapons (for entertainment purposes) the resulting shots caused a firestorm right over my gathering army... after that i kind of gave up on anti air, i still had quite a bit of Gatling turrets, but that was more for anti infantry. My games with him usually ended with both of us having as many infinite money buildings as we could(hackers or supply drops respectively) and sending huge tank hoards at each other. Most of the time i won because overlord tanks are bigger than paladin tanks, and nuke cannons do more damage than tomahawks.


    USA:

    usually relies on high tech stuff and somewhat superior units. The marines flash bang can take out a lot of infantry, and the paladin tank has a laser thingy for anti missile work which is really potent if you have a lot of them can completely neutralize an entire mig wave with enough.

    There basic stuff is more expensive but more capable in a one on one basis than the other two armies.

    Special weaponry: lasers, particle cannons, and in the exp robots

    China:

    brute force, either from numbers, or really big units. their basic infantry comes in twos and they get a hoard bonus for groups of 5, that bonus also applies to their basic tanks. They also get the overlord tank the classic big tank for the C and C series, with two large cannons and anti air ablity.

    Special weapons: nukes, napalm

    Global liberation army (anti capitalist, though could be confused with the image of arab armies)

    cheap steathly guys with unusual units. Their buildings rebuild for free as long as the hole isn't blown up, which means a nuke strike wont destroy a base as the holes will rebuild it. Their armed mobs are basically tanks that require anti infantry weaponry to take down.

    Special weapons: bio/chem which for some reason does good damage to tanks...
     
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    I really love this game, but its really Americanised. When you're playing America it plays really heroic music, when you're playing the GLA the music is really evil, and when its China its smewhere in between. America is protrayed as the selfless international protector, the GLA are shown as evil and China is also shown as a protector against terrorism but acting in its own interests - scooping the rewards from the aftermath of America's defeat, and always using nukes. In reality its usually similar case with the U.S.A. An excellent game though. I wonder if China will ever get dragged into the war on terror.
    Is it possible for China to build a nuke cannon? As far as I know they also don't have any "dragon" flamethrower tanks.
     
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    Actually flame thrower tanks have existed since World War 2, for anti tank and anti infantry purposes.

    -Its called Tactical Nukes, where do you think theyre shot from? You have large mobile artillery that fires tactical nukes theyve existed for a loooong time.

    China can beat the USA you just need to know/do two things:

    A) who your fighting

    B) choose your general wisely

    C) Utilize your assets

    Enough Gattlng vehicals can make mincemeat out of attacking air assets. The more mobile you are the better things will go for you.

    My experiances facing an air force general kinda ho like this:

    I build a vast network of gattling turrets and bunkers with SAM infantry in strategic locations, then I build a super concentration of GAT's in a square pattern surrounding a large area then I begin constructing nuclear facilities.

    I build between 2-3 and I awaite the enemy responce, at this point the other 2 players where still raiding each others power networks but they became ansty at my nukes, so they tried one or 2 raids but couldnt make it in.

    Then I made a mistake, 5 minutes later I pressed the big red button.

    Instead of attacking ONE target I attacked both players aiming at their airfields.

    The result was that both of them had a truce and began pummeling my airdefences, finally it got to the point where I had started with say 18-25 gats I was reduced to 6 with no power. My bunkers busted open and my nuclear facilities demolished.

    Never take on 2 Airforce/super weapons generals at once! :eek:
     
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    Air attack is virtually no problem for me, since I often build loads of anti-air. Its a habit. And the GLA have the best anti-air in my opinion. Its when they use loads of superweapons on me, especially SCUD storms - thats when I find it hard to win.
    Yes, I've beaten the U.S.A. as China loads of times. I tend to selcet the nuke general, and bombard the Americans with MiGs and nukes and artillery.
    China doesn't oficially have any MIGs in its airfroce. They're all Chinese copies. And the MiGs in Generals lool more like J-10s - they don't look like any MiG I've ever seen.
     
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    that's the MiG 1.44

    J-10 is supposedly in the latest patch for Zero Hour.
     
  9. Ender Wiggin
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    I didnt know the Mig 1.44 existed yet...

    Which patch makes it the J-10? 1.04? Or is it a mod that does it?
     
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    haven't played this in months but still have the game installed
    heh for me i rather go with the airforce general and do the apache/commanche rush.. MASSIVE like 50 of those apaches

    or the infantry general and do a massive wave of soldiers.. like 10-20 barracks per game

    GLA is not bad, all you need to do it know how to use them, my favorite for them the the demo general.. build 5 demo trucks are arm them with high explosive, do a burial attack to distract the base bring the the demo trucks from the front and self denonate.. it's more powerfull than a nuke

    You know what this game reminds me of? BATTLEFIELD 2 (except no advance weapons like that of C&C)... everybody these days are making China Vs Arabs (not intended to be racist) Vs US
     
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