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    That is unfairo_O, they should have spent some time in the labor camp somewhere in the middle of nowhere, so that they could gather the first-hand evidence of China's brutality to HR fighters.:(
     
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    I highly doubt that any Chinese security official nowadays would threaten anyone with execution, foreigner included. Threatening to send someone to a North Korean gulag is just laughable.

    Either the couple were lying about their experience or the NYT reporter was making it up.

    After seeing this line, I don't need to read the rest.
     
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    I can agree with that, talking about the entire picture including other problems and other solutions for empowering people while not overburdening society. In general I still do think that labor costs, especially at the bottom end, are too often wrongly blamed as a diversion and excuse to not address other actual causes of problems.
     
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    What the Heck?!
    Sunday at 8:27 AM
    it's a different been
    What the Heck?!
    "From Russian hackers burrowed deep within the US electrical grid, ready to plunge the nation into darkness at the flip of a switch, an hour and a half later the story suddenly became that a single non-grid laptop had a piece of malware on it and that the laptop was not connected to the utility grid in any way."
    'Fake News' And How The Washington Post Rewrote Its Story On Russian Hacking Of The Power Grid http://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevle...ssian-hacking-of-the-power-grid/#34e5b915291e

    LOLOL am wondering if there'll be a continuation
    What the Heck?!
     
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    How common is in China? Crazy stuff boiling a dog alive and laughing about it. I'm not against eating dogs but that seems to be pure sadism.
     
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    If Chinese eating dog is common, why would people diabolically laugh about it every time they do it especially when it's being boiled alive? Charging "laughing" assumes they know what they're doing is wrong and are in spite of it. The critics boil crab and lobster alive. Is the only difference because they're not laughing about it? Then it's not about sparing the suffering of innocent animals. Yes all of the sudden there's a hierarchy on what animals are more valuable. Hence why the critics also have a history of racial discrimination. That's called a distraction.
     
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    thought I might share
    Neural Network-based Automatic Image Colorization http://hi.cs.waseda.ac.jp:8082/
    I didn't try it, just a minute ago noticed on Facebook it worked surprisingly well for pictures of pre-WW2 Czechoslovak bunkers though :)
     
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    Sounds like propaganda tricks.

    It's a very common and legitimate interrogation technique for security officers to list the worst punishments legally possible for an accused offence.

    For example, it would be pretty routine for US police officers to remind a suspect if the state they are in have the death penalty for the crime the suspect is accused of, as a way to get them to confess in exchange for a lighter sentence.

    Similarly, it would not at all be out of order for law enforcement to use the threat to extradition to get suspects to co-operate.

    I believe in China, espionage can carry the death penalty, and since the couple were accused of spying on China and North Korea, it would certainly have been within China's rights to extradite them to North Korea if NK wanted them.

    Just a case study in how routine western propagandists can easily twist normal things to sound sinister and evil (or the reverse when it's the west that does it, just look at the contrasting coverage of Aleppo vs Mosul, where it's genocidal barrel bombs vs smart freedom bombs)
     
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    I saw this a few hours ago but didn't have time to post it then, and had just wanted to post this story now that I have time, which I found to be interesting.

    But turns out it is a lot more interesting than I first thought.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-38517847

    All I originally wanted to point out was the hypocrisy of how the media keeps repeating their party line lie that China doesn't have a Uighur terrorist problem and how (always unnamed) western intelligence officials dispute Chinese claims the Uighurs are part of international jihadist terrorists networks, but this development challenges that.

    Note that this story was only published 4 hours ago, which would have been 2pm GMT, on a Thursday, so traffic would have been very light as the lunchtime break would have been over and everyone would be back at their desks working rather than browsing the news.

    Now, the interesting additional insight this story gives us is how the western main stream media supresses news they don't want the public to see, while still maintain the facade of claiming to not censor news.

    Just go to the BBC website and try to find this story without specifically searching for it. Can't find it can you?

    I couldnt even find this again after going to all the BBC articles related to the nightclub attack, and none of them links back to this article. Not even the ones this article itself links to.

    Unless you just happened to have seen this in the few hours it was featured on the BBC News World home page, like I did, anyone casually checking the news, or even specially researching this attack just simply won't ever see this article.

    The only way to find it now is if you specifically searched for it using keywords.

    So, the BBC gets to effectively stop the overwhelming majority of its readers from ever knowing about this development, but they have evidence that they did indeed publish it, so Irs very hard to prove what they have done unless you caught them red handed by chance like I did.

    The Chinese censors still have a lot to learn from the western media masters.
     
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    I wonder if this would lead to greater cooperation between China and Turkey?
     
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