What the Heck?! Thread (Closed)

Just saw that news too. This is just sick sick sick!

What do you guys think will happen to Joshua Wong, jailed or executed for sedition, followed by a fair trial?

Jonathan Garber: As you face trial, what's going through your mind? Are you scared?

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Joshua Wong: I'm not scared, because I know that I need to face the trial. What I mean is, I already expect I will need to pay the price for organizing the campaign to regain Civic Square.

Garber: Right now you're barred from entering mainland China. How do you feel about that? Is there anything you'd like to say to Beijing?

Wong: Beijing wants the new generation, and Hong Kong, to embrace the Communist Party of China, and love the country, and claim ourselves as Chinese. But if they reject us from entering China, how can we love China? That's the problem. If they continue to refuse and reject our request to enter mainland China, it will only increase the disagreement the new generation has toward the central government of China.

Garber: As a 17-year-old with much to lose, what compelled you to start the movement?

Wong: I organized an anti-national-education movement in 2011 and 2012, and I organized a political-reform movement from 2013 to 2014. With this strategy, what we hope for is to persist on our principles and to fight for what we want, to get one person one vote. To get a chance to organize a direct election and a legislative council and the chief executive election.

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Garber: What will the relationship between China and Hong Kong be like in 10 years?

Wong: The Chinese government will just try to increase the interference toward Hong Kong. It's time for Hongkongers to take a chance to fight for self-determination.

Garber: Is there anything you'd like to say to Beijing before you go on trial?

Wong: I just hope to let Beijing, especially [Chinese President] Xi Jinping, to know that the student activists will still continue to fight to end this oppression, no matter what we face after this trial. We will still commit to the democracy movement until we achieve self-governance and freedom in Hong Kong.

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He'll get a fine and at a 3-5 years sentence.

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“If You Want to Marry, Marry Someone Like Xi Dada.”

Perhaps more than any other, this lyric to a song that has gone viral on the internet on the mainland demonstrates the growing cult of personality surrounding President Xi Jinping – or “Xi Dada [Uncle Xi]” as the song would have it.

The sudden interest in the song comes at a time when much of the state-run media has been painting Xi as a strong, wise and great leader and the Communist Party’s leadership has urged the party’s 88 million members to study Xi’s remarks – along with the organisation’s constitution and rules.

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, who is decisive in acts and is serious in [all his] work; no matter [whether] it’s flies or tigers, monsters and freaks, he will get all of them down and never let it go,” the song cheerily chirps – referencing the high and low-level corrupt officials that Xi has been pursuing in his landmark anti-corruption campaign.

“If you want to marry, marry someone like Xi Dada, a man full of heroism with an unyielding sprit; no matter how the world changes and how many difficulties lie ahead, he will insist and keep moving forward.”

The singer is Hu Xiaoming, who is relatively unknown, at least for now, while the music and lyrics have been composed by Tang Jianyun, who refers to himself as a “grass-roots” musician.

Tang’s other songs include: Be A Man Like Xi Dada, Cliff, Most Beautiful Sunset, and My Dearest Friend, according to his profile on Baidu.com.

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While neither the singer nor the composer has an official title, at least for now, the mainland’s censors have appeared happy to let the song spread.

And spread it has. There are already online videos instructing people on how to dance to its rhythm.

But at least the decision to learn the dance is still voluntary – unlike in the days of the Cultural Revolution when doing a “loyalty dance” to chairman Mao Zedong was sometimes mandatory.

Since Xi took power more than three years ago, praise of the leader has reached a level that would have been hard to imagine in the days of his predecessors Hu Jintao and Jiang Zemin .

There are other signs that Xi is putting his stamp on his time at the top. State media announced on Sunday that party members would study Xi’s “important thoughts” on a wide range of issues ranging from reform, stability and domestic politics, to diplomacy and defence.

WATCH: ‘If You Want To Marry, Marry Someone Like Xi Dada’

The reports stressed that to show the continuity and progress of the party’s theories, Xi’s series of speeches should be combined with Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory, the Important Thought of the Three Represents and the Scientific Outlook on Development.

These political theories – by Xi’s predecessors – have been written into the party charter, enshrining the concepts as the party’s guiding ideology. Xi’s speeches joined that pantheon during the party’s fourth plenum in 2014.

Veteran China watcher Johnny Lau Yui-siu said Xi was following a political tradition of creating a theoretical banner to establish his status as a new generation of leadership. “This is a Chinese model, where one needs the support of theories to consolidate authority. But in fact this exactly reflects how inadequate he is right now in terms of cohesiveness – this is why he needs so many administrative measures to promote things,” Lau said.

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Equation said:

He'll get a fine and at a 3-5 years sentence.

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Guilty for 3 to 5 years sentence, and then a fair trial?

He already broken the law and sort of admits it too. So the trial will proceed according to law and than he'll be judged.

Blackstone said:

What do you guys think will happen to Joshua Wong, jailed or executed for sedition, followed by a fair trial?

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Tish...the worst that could happen to him and his lot is to miss this year's election, as there's nothing remotely close to get them lot thrown him behind bars for 10+ years without possibility of parole; and there's no fair trial for him because the Judiciary is known - even though they've repeatedly denied such charges, the court have let way too many of them lot walk with suspended sentences or mere community service, so the facts are against them - to have a soft spot for them, even after all the tangible and intangible damages his lot of insurgents have caused to the society, plus the mountain of evidence that said so.

My predictions? Extremely light - read: laughable - sentence or outright aquittal, with a nicely suger-coated sentencing that singing high praises of their "democratic struggle"...and not to mention yet more backstabbing against the law enforcement service - whom being brutally victimized by the anti-government faction and its media wing, as per coloured revolution textbook - in the end.

Tweedledee and tweedledum.

Blackstone said:

Tweedledee and tweedledum.

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Bet you a 100 bucks says she will.

Doubtful. Not because Governor Tsai cares about Beijing's sensitivities, but because Taiwan Province depends on the Mainland for its economic well being, and Gov. Tsai's top priority is to be reelected.