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JayBird

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I've never been to Whole Foods. I've been to Trader Joe's and I find it ironic that I see on TV their stuff is being recalled all the time.

My older sister's favorite is Whole Foods because she likes eveything organic and she is a vegetarian. And said she can always find the food she need but can't in other supermarket. The only problem she had with Whole Foods is the cashiers always making mistakes with the food price or charging her the same item twice more than a few times. My younger sister likes Trader Joe the most because the price is cheap. While I like the supermarket that is nearest to me. :p
 

plawolf

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This whole organic food thing IMO is over rated. C'mon it doesn't matter how much the food item costs because it will all end up as poop anyway.:p

A lot of it is just marketing BS, but I think organic is important for any animal products we consume.

A good example is poultry.

Battery farmed poultry often goes from egg to table in a matter of months, and often a lot of artificial hormones and other chemicals are added to the birds' feed to help them grow a lot faster than normal.

The cramped conditions those animals are often kept in also massively increases the odds and occurrences of disease, which are countered with a lot of antibiotics. Often antibiotics are given as standard as a means of trying to prevent disease rather then being used to combat it.

Needless to say, a lot of those artificial hormones, additives and antibiotics remain in the birds' systems after they are slaughtered, and as such, end up being consumed by humans.

I personally believe a lot of the world's obesity, and many other 'modern" chronic health problems are directly related to the use and abuse of such pharmaceutical products in modern food production methods.
 

delft

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This whole organic food thing IMO is over rated. C'mon it doesn't matter how much the food item costs because it will all end up as poop anyway.:p
Conventional "modern farming methods" are good to produce a lot of food fast, as is needed in World Wars. However continuing on that way is damaging to the fertility of the earth and of the rivers in which much of the chemicals end up. Modern "organic" farming methods, i.e. not using anorganic fertilizers, not using poisons against weeds and insects, is less productive but also less expensive but needs more labour. The main cause of the price difference is that the transport channels for the conventional produce is so much wider, and conventional methods are optimized to externalize much of the production costs. Also don't forget the subsidies, in US notoriously that to the 24000 sugar farmers.
When small autonomous agricultural machines become available the labour productivity advantage of conventional farming will disappear.
 

AssassinsMace

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Recently Whole Foods was caught where they sold fruits and vegetables that were wrapped in plastic charging more per pound than the unwrapped. I don't know if that's psychology at work where people gravitate to buying something that's wrapped just like someone buying asparagus water. Just imagine at the Whole Foods HQ where executives are just laughing at the new products they think up.
 

kwaigonegin

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Recently Whole Foods was caught where they sold fruits and vegetables that were wrapped in plastic charging more per pound than the unwrapped. I don't know if that's psychology at work where people gravitate to buying something that's wrapped just like someone buying asparagus water. Just imagine at the Whole Foods HQ where executives are just laughing at the new products they think up.

I was at WF just yesterday and noticed that a couple of items that were 'on sale' are still priced higher than similar items at wally world LOL.

Naturally I bought them and only realized it when the Mrs. told me after the fact. With that being said not everything there is a price gouged. There are many items there that are reasonably priced.. you just have to know what you're buying.
 

AssassinsMace

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Yes Whole Foods like Trader Joe's are specialty grocery stores for natural and organic foods.

Funny thing is when I go to San Francisco's Chinatown, many of the stores' produce is larger and fresher than what you see at chain grocery stores and it's less expensive. There is more dirt you find in hard to wash out places but overall fresher and larger. So I don't know what they're doing but I guess the big grocery chains have their own or contracted farms that supply them and they just care about getting the shipment out as soon as it reaches minimum standards. Also when I get some Chinese fried chicken, I'd say they're double the size pieces you get from places like KFC and again cheaper. I can get 20 pieces for about $8-$10. I'm not sure how they're able to do that unless it's all fixed with the big chains.
 
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