what is the major different between China and Nato,EU ,US ?

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bomber

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According to the nature of western countries and china,,,,
US,UK,EU these countries always takecare in human safety(safety 1st in every farm).These countries code and practices are very detailed and sensative,100%safety factors.
What I would like to say is,if using same budget amount for military,china can make 3 times of western countries military power build.
1# salary for soldiers (may be 1US soldier salary equal 5 chinese soldiers).
2# body armour and equipments production cost also differents minimum 3 times cheaper than US,
3#food and medical supplies are also different.
4#trucks,APC and tanks ,Tow,howitzers to rifle production are more cheaper than west except electronic and target finding tehnology and rador in this moment,these technology will be owned by chinese scientist in the very near future.
5#PRC can manufatured russian under licenced fighter ,bombers,anti air SAMs to submarines for his NAVY and AIR Forces .it cost also cheaper than US made HWare,.
6#China also received missile technology via isreal(they just seek for profit).
7#nuclear and WMD can be produced by PRC scientists.
8# R&D cost is cheaper and faster,,,western need to approve by paliament,congress and International code and pratices according to international law.Like green peace and others NGO always seek for enviroments and many things.
advantages of PRC are no need to declare to public for military affairs, NGO like Greenpeace are negleted,no need to worry about accidents ,injuries in trinning,testing and within military exercises.{eg:mine accidents kill hundreds of miners in every year but it is not stop and still going on . saftey last?????

therefore,PRC economy are running to sky high and military expences also parralled. In human resourses for war .PRC is one of the most biggest and stroungest in our earth,,,,
US and westeners must be feed back and reduces their expences on overall.:china: :china: :china: :china: :china: :china:
 
Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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bomber said:
According to the nature of western countries and china,,,,
US,UK,EU these countries always takecare in human safety(safety 1st in every farm).These countries code and practices are very detailed and sensative,100%safety factors.
What I would like to say is,if using same budget amount for military,china can make 3 times of western countries military power build.
1# salary for soldiers (may be 1US soldier salary equal 5 chinese soldiers).
2# body armour and equipments production cost also differents minimum 3 times cheaper than US,
3#food and medical supplies are also different.
4#trucks,APC and tanks ,Tow,howitzers to rifle production are more cheaper than west except electronic and target finding tehnology and rador in this moment,these technology will be owned by chinese scientist in the very near future.
5#PRC can manufatured russian under licenced fighter ,bombers,anti air SAMs to submarines for his NAVY and AIR Forces .it cost also cheaper than US made HWare,.
6#China also received missile technology via isreal(they just seek for profit).
7#nuclear and WMD can be produced by PRC scientists.
8# R&D cost is cheaper and faster,,,western need to approve by paliament,congress and International code and pratices according to international law.Like green peace and others NGO always seek for enviroments and many things.
advantages of PRC are no need to declare to public for military affairs, NGO like Greenpeace are negleted,no need to worry about accidents ,injuries in trinning,testing and within military exercises.{eg:mine accidents kill hundreds of miners in every year but it is not stop and still going on . saftey last?????

therefore,PRC economy are running to sky high and military expences also parralled. In human resourses for war .PRC is one of the most biggest and stroungest in our earth,,,,
US and westeners must be feed back and reduces their expences on overall.:china: :china: :china: :china: :china: :china:
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Well, much of what you say is true and in essence, the PLA gets more bang for the buck for each dollar spent as a result.

But now comes the reality check. The overall effect is misleading because of the HUGE disparity in total dollars spent. The PRC spends somewhere between 40 billion US and 70 billion US on defense, depending on whose numbers you want to believe. By comparison, the US announces and details exactly how much it will spend on defense. The 2007 defense budget for the US will be 440 billion dollars. Within a few years, estimate show the US budget may be equal to all of the rest of the world combined at current rates, even with the PLA increases. That's a huge factor that cannot be overstated.

As a result, the US still produces more military technology and more equipment overall, despite the heavier cost...and its soldiers are better paid, safer, and have more training as a result of all that money, all of which are critical to moral and cohesiveness.

Just my opinion.
 
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bomber

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Jeff Head said:
Well, much of what you say is true and in essence, the PLA gets more bang for the buck for each dollar spent as a result.

But now comes the reality check. The overall effect is misleading because of the HUGE disparity in total dollars spent. The PRC spends somewhere between 40 billion US and 70 billion US on defense, depending on whose numbers you want to believe. By comparison, the US announces and details exactly how much it will spend on defense. The 2007 defense budget for the US will be 440 billion dollars. Within a few years, estimate show the US budget may be equal to all of the rest of the world combined at current rates, even with the PLA increases. That's a huge factor that cannot be overstated.

As a result, the US still produces more military technology and more equipment overall, despite the heavier cost...and its soldiers are better paid, safer, and have more training as a result of all that money, all of which are critical to moral and cohesiveness.

Just my opinion.
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Thanks for ur opinion sharing...
China become hyper power contry in milltary power.
So power balancing is important like cold war (US vs CCCP).
Chinese have many advantages in military racing as my last post.
Advantage for West is just in hi tech military Hardware.But chinese are trying for Hitech Weapons technology and systems,they don,t like to depend on Russia and some western countries and Isreal.
I like to know ,chinese scientist can make Hi tech military hardware and software in next 10yrs...it will be possible or not.
discussing business in this forum is not appretiated by moderators but following are major points of view for future military power development.
In Business of china after open door policy,china economy developed very
fast and skyhigh but some economist said that it will be stop at the one level.
because of the lack of skill management human resources.
India is now starting their business like china,India have better advantage in management human resources(Educated peoples),but one major weakness for india is ,indian like gold and they don,t invest their gold for business...In the military power racing.....
India have many skill and educated HR more than china.but India must be transparent and open to the people howmany billion use for military,etc.
Okay...my reply is too long and like new post.
good luck all and happy with ur girl friend ,:p :p :p 14th feb(valantine,s day)
 
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Scratch

Captain
Developing high-end technology on the latest level will require international cooperation. Thus, there will be a certain influence to China. And you need highly skille engeneers to do that work. These will gain a higher standart of living. That in turn brings in more wealth wich itself makes people more interested in more general issues once the daily survival is secure.
Therefore there will be more need for safty and health care and improved living standarts.
Wich finally will make life and development in China more expensive, closing in on the industry nations level.
 
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lcortez

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Believe China will become a superpower (not hyperpower),i the next 20 - 30yrs.However, China has a lot of catching up to do.US military technology is at least 15yrs ahead of Chinas and advancing all the time,by the time China has caught up with US technology levels,the US will have moved on!
Whilst I agree China has made great strides recently,her army is still mainly an infantry based force,and has had to start development from a very low base in terms of technology,Ibelieve I have seen a qoute from a Chinese general who stated that in comparison with the west,and the US in particular that the PLA has 'short arms and short legs',meaning not much power projection or mobility.
My personal opinion,and Im not a military man,is that China should perhaps aim for European technology levels (not to far behind US),and develop key technologies with specific aim ie the recent anti satelite launch.
 
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