Wars of the future

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    What do you think possible wars will be in like for instanche in 2015?

    Even thow im not an expert i belive, that small is beatiful! The PLA dosent nessecarily have to "beat" the American navy, only make them think twice before entering chinas waters.

    One thing China should do(and in part it has already done)is to consentrate on new nano and antimatter weapons. One thing the Chinese should also do is to make a suggestion to the americans, that both sides should give up there possible weapons in space. If the americans refuse(because there still in love with "Star Wars")China should manufacture small, difficult to trace bombs, and claim(althow those claims may not nessecarily be true)that such bombs allready exist in Americas soil. The Americans by then will probobly give up there missile shield against "rogue states" all together. China(and Russia and other nations)should this way force America to execpt MAD(Mutually assured destruction)and find a peaceful solution to the Taiwan crisis(perhapce a constitutional bill of rights by China to grant for instanche Taiwan and Tibet almost 100% autonomity, and have democratic elections and a 2 or 3 party system?)

    One thing China should also do is to make arm deals with other countries. If they arm countries like Russia, Korea, Japan, India Vietnam with modern nano weapons, the americans will quit literally be forced to give up there unilaterial demands. When the hole world has modern nano and antimatter WMD:s America can no longer be a "hyper power" since it cant anymore bully smaller countries. I think, that this is a good option for China.

    This way Americans will also give up there "Missile shield" since it cant anymore help defend them against "rogue states" and terrorists. America could this way be forced to join a new "multipolar" world order, wich would be more "flat" and were america would have far les influence that it does today.

    One way to minimize american influnce is to create "mini WMDS" like for instanche consentrate on nano manifacturing. If Chinas has modern nano manifacturing, the Americans cant "shut down" China by shooting down one or two factories. Of course some have argued, that if China will discover molecular manufacturing, the Americans will in that case turn there weapons towards the civilian population :mad:

    My personal opinion is, that China should creat small nano and maybe also antimatter weapons and spread them around america. Than the americans could be "forced" to expect MAD and give up on there infamous "missile shield" With America however you always have to look out for suprises. The americans dont really like to loose to NO ONE, so theres no telling what they might do if they feel threaten. I personally however belive, that despite the danger of a nuclear-antimatter-nano war it's better to use force to presure america. The americans seem to adapt to it. Kenedy promised to draw hes missiles out of Turkey, if Hrutsev would draw hes from Cuba. I think this way america could be pressured to sign a new "space limitation" treaty, that would ban all american and chinese weapons in space, leaving both without any missile shiled(since none would protect them from small but equally deadly bombs anyway)in the mercy of MAD

    China should use these means to "encircle" America with weapon and arm deals possible even with Latin american countries. If China has means of delivering WMDS to american soil, the americans wont try any funny shit with her. Basicly americans must be made to understand,that Ronald Regans dream of an invurnable America were just some crazy thoughts of a soon to be alzhaimler patient. They have to be made to realize that the guy was NUTS, and that MAD still applies!
     
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    maybe you are taking it too far...america will kill itself if thge bush admin stay in power. i have a good scenario for war, but its to long to type, and i dont have time. china does not need to worry immediately about the u.s. concentrate on taiwan, japan, and indonesia.
     
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    john henry you are just soooooo funny. china and nano tech. the only thing nano is china's guts, china don't have the guts to invade anyone.
    how do you hurt a chinese guy, take his money away, and he will be on the ground begging.
    the future of warfare will be with robotic military. go to japan web sites and or US military web sites. cuz, robotic are cheaper, than human soldiers, you don't have to feed them, house them, pay them, if they get injured, you don't have to pay their medical bills. since china has stolen many tech from usa, i believe currently better security will be installed, and it will be harder for mainlanders to steal anymore tech from america.
     
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    battlecruser, are u taiwanese, japanese, or american?
     
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    他是个汉奸
     
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    ignore him for god sake! it'll make our job so much easier as well because we don't have to delete all the posts replying to him.
     
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    welll........................................ can't you ask big G or sumdam to ban him?
     
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    I really think that many americans either dont understand(or dont want to unerstand)what current war has become. Thanks to globalism(free movement of peoples, money and information) a lot of "poor" countries can get high tech weapons. For instanche China was practicly broke 10-years ago, and look at them now :eek:

    And because of the movement of peoples missile shields cant really protect America from the attacks of "rogue states" I think at some point people in America and Europe will realize this. I dont know exacly how there going to react. Globalism and future nano techonology will destroy Euro-American centured world, and great a world, where the "west" is no longer in control, and it's not yeat surden how the "west" (especially the US)will respond. This will also affect war, because for instanche an aircraft carrier will be quite easy to take out by "mininukes" antimatter, nano or emp weapons. In other words, unless mankind(this by the way especially conserns the US)learns how to deal with it's problems without war, well...it'll basicly be the end of the hole human race! Think of a cold war where you have nano and antimatter weapons, and where instead of two super powers you have about 10 or 20 :eek: Basicly, we humans need to stop figting, or this planet is going to blow up in to a BILLION peaces!!!
     
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    If there is to be a future China-US war, it'll most likely be started by the US. China can quite comfortably overtake US within the next 50 yrs just by following its natural growth trajectory, unless of course China screws up itself by doing another cultural revolution or great leap forward.
    The most dangerous period will be when China closes in on US. The west, led by US, will panicked, the US will then feel like a weakened beast being cornered, there's no telling what it'll do. It may even go nuclear.
    This is very sad really, most Chinese like the US since their relations are not burdened by history as they are with some other countries.
    But judging from its recent behaviour, the US seems to want to prevent others from surpassing it at all costs, even if the potential contenders like China are only following their natural course of development.
     
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    Wise words my friend! WERY wise! However, the "new roman empire" may turn out to be a trojan one! I think, that before that happens, Europe and the US will be in a lot of trouble mostly because of internal affairs. It is true, that China should be afraid of the US, and try all shorts of nasty tricks to counter it! The US must be made to understand, than a potential war with China would seal it's own doom. There is only one way to defeat the US, wich isn't nessecarily throw war. The way is to simply prove, that you can take a possible war to there own doorstep! Surdenly for instanche Napoleon or Hitler would have ruled the world, if they would have been able to conquer britain, but they failed because of the english canal. The same is with the US. The US won the war with Japan for a wery simple reason;The Japanse didnt even try to invade US! BIG MIKSTAKE JAPAN! Later the US pressured the Soviets to draw there missiles from Cuda, and strated a multi million dollar project to protect them from there ICBM:s

    China should try everthing and all the dirty tricks possible to prove, that it can hit America. If i was a chinese general, i would split my effors on for instanche emp and space weapons weakening a possible american missile shield. The other thing i would do, is to invest money on nano manufacturing. I think, that in the end this would do the trick. Think of a device about the size of an aple, but with the power of an atomic bomb! I think, that this really could be possible thanks to nanomanufacturing. Ofcouse if the americans would discover that they really couldnt "win" the armsrace(protect them selves from a possible Chinese retaliation strike)the hole united states would possible collapse just like the soviet union. It ofcoutse would have grave economical and political consequences, but i think the Chinese should take that risk. China should also ask help from India, and make an alliance with her. There should be a "core" China-India alliance, with possible for instanche Russia on the side. I think, that if the Chinese discover nanomanufacturing(being able to make things atom by atom)they will win. The american missile shield will become useless, and the USA will have to give up being a "hyper power" A dangerous game, but China has no choise. I personally think that the United States is so weak it would collapse even without a possible armsrace with China, but China dosent have the luxury of waiting that long! You are right;USA will not wait for another 20-years! The war could begin SOON! China must be ready, and get help from India and Russia. But in the end i think China will win. Not because of her weapons really, but because of Americas own weaknes. The "empire" spends billions and billions guarding eufrat and trying to protect it's airspace from possible Chinese-Russian missiles. But it's south border is wide open to almost anyone who wishes come :D If the American empire can be defeated i think, that the only alliance that will do it is acually a mexican-chinese one ;) And that is why america will eventually fall anyway, with or without chinese help. The question only is, will america try a war with China before that :( ?
     
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