USS Guardian has run aground

plawolf

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That is certainly a possibility, but personally I think red tape is a far more probable cause for this unusually long delay in getting a salvage mission on scene. The Guardian is stuck in the middle of a 'no sail' zone, and I wonder if the Philippines are just not willing to let any more ships enter that area without all sorts of checks and studies to make sure those ships don't damage the reef or gets stuck themselves.
 

Jeff Head

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(Note: In the above picture, a U.S. Navy P-3C Orion maritime surveillance aircraft flies overhead while the Navy survey ship USNS BOWDITCH (T-AGS 62) stands by at left, and the Philippine Coast Guard ship BRP Corregidor observes from the right.​

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- BBC, January 25, 2013
A US Navy minesweeper stuck on a coral reef in a Unesco heritage site off the Philippine coast is badly damaged and taking in water, officials say.

The USS Guardian struck the reef in the Sulu Sea south-east of Palawan island last Thursday after completing a port call at the former Subic Bay base.

US officials say a salvage operation could take weeks to complete.

The reef is in the Tubbataha National Marine Park, designated a World Heritage Site by Unesco.

There had been hopes that the ship could simply be towed off the reef, but officials said the vessel was too badly damaged for that and that the first priority was to pump fuel out of the ship as it was being battered by rough waters.

PanAsian said:
Glad that a concrete solution is on its way. How does a crane get into place to pick up the ship? Would the crane be part of the lift ship itself or a separate floating rig?
Well, if they could pull the vessel off the reef, then the heavy lift vessel could come along side, lower her lift deck into the water deep enough to allow it to get underneath the USS Guardian and then lift the Guardian out of the water onto that deck...and off they would go. Like they did with the USS Cole. But, apparently the vessel is too hard aground to allow her being pulled off.

What this probably means is that large holes have been broken through the hull where the reef itself is sticking through and any effort to pull her off would simply rip her open and cause her to sink as soon as she got off the reef and into deep water. The hull of the USS Guardian is made of wood.

So, now they are talking about bringing in a large crane ship. That vessel will have to manuever alongside the Guardian and literally lift her out of the water and then onto either its own deck, or, more likely, onto the deck of a heavy lift vessel.

Either way, special attachments have to be designed and then fabricated and welded to the deck of whichever vessel is going to carry her off so that she is secure on that deck for whatever sea and weather conditions they may face before getting her to port. That process of design and fabrication and the attachment to the deck can take several days itself before the vessel can even be lifted.

It is going to be a very tricky and dicey situation, depending especially on the sea state and the currents, to have that larger crane ship so close to the reef itself so she can lift the vessel and place her on deck. She will have to be very close to the USS Guardian so no appreciable moment arm is generated, but that means there has to be deep enough water for the crane ship to do so.

From the following picture, taken early on in the grounding, I believe there is. See just aft of the large spool near the stern of the vessel how the water drops off so rapidly?

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So right there we see deep enough water, but it is exremely percipitous in how quickly it goes shallow there. If the crane ship itself is driven onto the reef, either by wind and waves or current...then things just got a lot worse.
 
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bd popeye

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Wow! Look at the port(left) side of the ship.It's been battered so much the paint is stripped off.... from wiki..

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SULU SEA (Jan. 24, 2013) Malaysian tug Vos Apollo, foreground, prepares for de-fueling operations near the grounded mine countermeasures ship USS Guardian (MCM 5) while a U.S. Navy small boat approaches with a salvage team. The U.S. Navy contracted Vos Apollo to assist with removing fuel from Guardian, which ran aground on the Tubbataha Reef in the Sulu Sea on Jan. 17. No fuel has leaked since the grounding and all of the approximately 15,000 gallons onboard Guardian was safely transferred to Vos Apollo during two days of controlled de-fueling operations on Jan. 24 and Jan. 25. The U.S. Navy continues to work in close cooperation with the Philippine Coast Guard and Navy to safely remove Guardian from the reef while minimizing environmental effects. (U.S. Navy photo by Naval Air Crewmen 3rd Class Geoffrey Trudell/Released)
 

delft

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Vos Apollo is called a tug, but is surely an oil rig supply vessel. Look at her after deck. Supply vessels were developed from tugs.
 

joshuatree

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Wow! Look at the port(left) side of the ship.It's been battered so much the paint is stripped off.... from wiki..

But so far the ship looks to be in pretty good shape, unless of course until we see pics of the underside of her. Cross your fingers folks.


Indeed, she got a good dose of a sand blasting effect with the continued wave pounding to the port side.

I'm afraid she is a write-off at this point. She's obviously too damaged to be simply pulled off the reef so my gut feeling tells me structurally, she has significant damage that won't justify the repair cost. Probably usable components from her will be salvaged. I think there was a critical window of opportunity lost when she was still grounded 90 degrees to the reef but that's long past now.

USS Port Royal grounded under less severe conditions and even her damage was extensive and costly but she is a cruiser so her value is much higher than a minesweeper which ups the threshold on the repair cost.
 

Jeff Head

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But so far the ship looks to be in pretty good shape, unless of course until we see pics of the underside of her. Cross your fingers folks.
Well, they have said that she is holed and taking on water. That they cannot pull her off and that's because the reef would open her to the sea if they tried.

So, they are going to have to go through a huge and difficult operation to bring a crane alongside and literally lift her up from where she sits.

When you compare the pics from the 18th with those from the 24th, six days, it is clear she is being very adversely impacted by the waves and the grating on the reef. I think if they had acted quickly, before she turned crosswise on the reef, they may have been able to pull her off directly...but I do not know that...she may have already been stuck fast with rocks sticking into the vessel.

Anyhow, my hope is that they get her off, get her repaired, and like the USS Cole, that she goes to sea again to server her country.

joshuatree said:
USS Port Royal grounded under less severe conditions and even her damage was extensive and costly but she is a cruiser so her value is much higher than a minesweeper which ups the threshold on the repair cost.
Speaking of the USS Port Royal, CG-73, grounding incident...that was a serious affair, thouhg not as much risk to losing the vessel outright. It happened less than a mile off the Hawaian International airport and so was in full view of landing and taking off aircraft.

The vessel had just come out of scheduled repairs and the Commanding Officer was anxious to do the shake down cruise and trials and get the vessel back in operation. They left the dock less than 1/2 hour after the scaffolding had been taken down...and the command crew had been up for almost two days straight preparing. While conducting trials they discovered that the fathometer was broken. Then, for navigation they decided to go off the GPS system and onto a gyro system and then ignored resulting warnings (with audible alarms) that there was a 1.4 mile discrepancy between the two systems. The qualified night watch, which should have been on duty, was assigned to the mess for duties that night and so were not on watch.

The result was, when they stopped to transfer some aviation personnel to small craft to transfer them into port, the winds and waves pushed them onto a soft grounding on the reef. In their efforts to get off, they came hard aground. Three attempts to move them with other ships failed, while progressively taking more equipment off of the vessel. First 200 tons, then over 300 tons. Ultimately 800 tons of equipment, fuel, sewage, etc. were removed from the ship to get her off the reef.

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USS Port Royal's being pulled off of the reef

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Damage to Port Royal's Rudders and screws. Note entire propeller sections missing which got chewed up and broken off in the reef

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Damage to Port Royal's Sonar dome. The entire dome had to be replaced

The USS Port Royal was in dry dock for months and the costs for her repair exceeded $40 million dollars. The Commanding Officer was relieved. The CO and the Executive officer and three others on the bridge received other non-judicial punishments for derelection of duty and standing the ship into danger. The Commanding Officer had only had 4 1/2 hours sleep in the prior 24 hours and was also cited for sleep deprivation. The Navy spent another $6.5 million to try and help repair the reef, and then settled and paid Hawaii another $8 million for coral reef damage, bringing the total bill to about $55 million in direct costs for the incident.
 
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joshuatree

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Looks like Guardian will be broken up and removed piece by piece. What I thought was paint stripping on the port side from the wave action is actually the fiberglass delaminating, exposing the wooden hull. Operations is expected take a month. Clicking on the respective pic in the link twice will provide a pic that can be enlarged. You can see much detail on the stricken vessel.

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Caught between the jagged coral of an ocean reef and Filipino environmental and political concerns, the U.S. Navy says it will cut up the trapped USS Guardian and take it away piece by piece.

“Our only supportable option is to dismantle the damaged ship and remove it in sections,” Capt. Darryn James, spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Fleet, said Jan. 29.......
 
Looks like Guardian will be broken up and removed piece by piece. What I thought was paint stripping on the port side from the wave action is actually the fiberglass delaminating, exposing the wooden hull. Operations is expected take a month. Clicking on the respective pic in the link twice will provide a pic that can be enlarged. You can see much detail on the stricken vessel.

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Scoring political points with the Philippines and hopefully other allies must have had a lot to do with this decision. Minimizing environmental damage and risk of the ship sinking could have been dealt with in other ways and could not have justified the cost and complexity of removal by dismantling. Making the best of a bad situation.
 

bd popeye

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Yep.. the Guardian will be broken up to be removed.. wow..

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Unable to tow the minesweeper USS Guardian off a reef in the Philippines, the Navy has decided that the only way to free the ship without causing further damage to the reef is to cut the ship into pieces.

That basically means the USS Guardian will no longer exist as a Navy vessel and will be taken off the Navy’s ship roster.

The 23-year-old Avenger class minesweeper USS Guardian ran aground on Tubbataha Reef the night of Jan. 17 as the ship crossed the Sulu Sea. The reef, located about 400 miles south of Manila, is both a Philippines natural park and a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Days after the incident the commander of the Navy’s Seventh Fleet issued an apology to the Philippine government.

In the days since, the Navy was unable to tow the ship off the reef as poor sea conditions complicated the salvage effort. Capt. Darryn James, spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Fleet, told ABC News that the Navy now plans to cut the ship into pieces to get it off the reef. Two heavy lift ship-borne cranes will arrive at the scene by Friday to begin to salvage the ship. The process is expected to take a month.

“The ship is badly damaged,” said James. According to James the team of naval architecture and salvage efforts working to free the minesweeper determined that “after a full review of all possible alternatives, our only viable option is to dismantle the damaged ship and remove it in sections.”

James said the decision ”keeps the cranes in deeper water to minimize coral damage.” He added, ”We are developing a thoughtful and deliberate plan to safely remove individual sections of the ship without causing the release of harmful materials.”

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None of the 79 sailors aboard the ship were injured in the grounding and there has been no seepage of fuel onto the reef. The ship’s crew was transferred to another U.S. vessel and have returned to their homeport of Sasebo, Japan.

The ship’s wooden hull — covered in fiberglass — is punctured and parts of the ship have been flooded. As part of the salvage effort the 15,000 gallons of diesel fuel aboard the Guardian were transferred to a Malaysian tug contracted by the Navy. Other materials that might damage the reef have also been removed including : 671 gallons of lubricating oil; dry food stores; paints and solvents contained in storage lockers; and the crew’s personal effects left behind on the ship.

A preliminary Navy review found that the digital chart the crew was using to navigate the ship incorrectly listed the reef’s location by 8 miles. A review of additional charts created by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency found another navigational aberration off the coast of Chile. Both have been corrected.

The Philippine Congress is conducting its own investigation of the ship’s grounding.

According to a Navy fact sheet, the Navy’s 14 Avenger-class ships “are designed as mine sweepers/hunter-killers capable of finding, classifying and destroying moored and bottom mines.” With hulls made of wood and sheathed in fiberglass, the 224-foot-long vessels “use sonar and video systems, cable cutters and a mine detonating device that can be released and detonated by remote control. They are also capable of conventional sweeping measures.”

A number of the vessels have been deployed to the Persian Gulf over the past year to counter any possible Iranian threat to close the Strait of Hormuz with mines.
 
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