USS Guardian has run aground

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    USS Guardian Runs Aground

    US Navy Minesweeper Runs Aground on Reef in the Philippines
    Jan 16, 2013 11:12pm

    US Navy Ship Stuck on Reef in the Philippines - ABC News

    A U.S. Navy minesweeper has run aground on a reef in the Sulu Sea in the Philippines.
    The ship remains stuck on the reef. No injuries were reported among the ship’s crew of 81 and there were no indications of a fuel leak.

    A Navy statement said the USS Guardian (MCM-5) ran aground on the Tubataha Reef at 2:25 a.m. local time while transiting in the Sulu Sea. The reef is located almost 400 miles south of the Philippine capital of Manila.

    According to the statement released by the Navy’s Seventh Fleet, the Avenger-Class mine countermeasures ship was en route to its next port of call when the grounding occurred in the middle of the Sulu Sea.

    “The ship is currently stuck on the reef, approximately 80 miles east-southeast of Palawan Island,” said the statement late Wednesday. “The crew is currently working to determine the best method of safely extracting the ship.”

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    Philippines to Seek Damages for US Navy Ship Mishap

    Updated: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:40:25 GMT | By Agence France-Presse

    UNESCO World Heritage Site Damaged by US Navy Ship - Latest news around the world and developments close to home - MSN Malaysia News

    The USS Guardian remained trapped on the Tubbataha Reef, about 130 kilometres (80 miles) southeast of the western island of Palawan, on Friday, even after most of its crew members were removed in a bid to get it refloated.

    Philippine officials said the 224-foot (68 metre) minesweeper, based in Susebo, southern Japan, was destroying corals in the Unesco World Heritage Site where entry is restricted and permits are required.

    She questioned why the ship, which had just made a port call in Subic Bay in the Philippines, was passing through Tubbataha."There was an absence of good faith here. They did not even report (the grounding.) Our rangers just discovered them there. I don't know what they wanted," she said.

    The US Navy should be liable for entering the marine reserve without a permit, damaging corals and for non-cooperation with local officers, she said, adding that the fine would depend on the extent of the damage.

    The local office of the environmental group the World Wildlife Fund also criticised the US navy, saying it was "both baffling and lamentable" that the USS Guardian would enter Tubbataha without a permit.

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    Well, the sun just set on some commanding officer's career...and maybe that of the navigator too.

    What were they doing there in the first place? It's well known that there are reefs and shallows there so why go through in the first place?

    Hope they can get the vessel off safely without too much damage. The Avenger class are actually not bad mine warfare vessels with good sensors and very good equipment to deal with all types of mines...tethered, moored, bottom, etc. But the US Navy has historically underfunded the Mine Warfare training budgets, maintenance budgets, and new upgrades.

    One thing a lot of people are not aware of is that the hulls of these fourteenAvenger Class vessels were constructed of
    Oak, Douglas Fir, and Cypress wood because of those particular wood's strength, flexibility and low weight. The hull is then coated with a glass-platic resin. All of this gives the vessels a very low magnetic signature.

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    Yep.. that CO of the Guardian career is toast..burnt toast in fact

    U.S. Navy Continues Operations to Free Grounded USS Guardian

     
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    What about due to extenuating circumstances, ie malfunction leading to loss of power? So far, no details have been revealed on cause.
     
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    Ultimately the CO of any ship takes the responsibility for this sort of accident. these days the USN is very quick to fire commanding officers.. very quick indeed..

    Navy commanding officer, senior enlisted firings - Navy News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Navy Times

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    Does not matter...short of some kind of enemy action incapacitating him through absolutely no fault of his or his crew. Even then the CO may go down.

    The CO takes responsibility. He is responsible for what that vessel does, and what his crew does with that vessel. The training and behavior of the crew is his responsibility as it relates to the vessel and how it impacts the Navy and the country.

    So, someone may go down with the CO who was directly involved...but the Commanding Officer is going to go down (and have it on his record meaning he will not get another command) if the vessel collides with another ship, a rock, a pier, a bouy, etc., etc., or takes any other action that is harmful or embarassing to the US Navy or the United States of America.

    It is an awesome job...and it has awesome responsibilities.

    A CO has to inspire the crew...and command their respect and obedience and loyalty. Takes a very special leader..and sometimes a hard leader...but that is what it takes and if you, or the vessel, or the crew mis-steps in any major way...the CO is first in line to fall off the ladder.
     
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    Damaged US Warship Sinking Into Sulu Sea

    (The Philippine Star) | Updated January 19, 2013 - 1:00am

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    MANILA, Philippines - An environmental disaster looms at one of the nation’s five World Heritage Sites as a freshly refueled US Navy minesweeper has started sinking in waters around Tubbataha Reef.

    Informed sources told The STAR yesterday that the 1,300-ton, 68-meter-long USS Guardian, which ran aground on the reef at around 2 a.m. Thursday, had started taking in water and sinking, prompting 72 of the 79 crew to abandon ship. No injuries were reported.

    The seven who remained aboard, including the commanding and executive officers, would try to free the ship from the reef with minimal environmental impact, according to a statement from the US Navy’s 7th Fleet.

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    Wait a minute. If the ship is grounded on a reef..and she is. How is the Guardian sinking? Maybe just maybe she's taking on water.

    According to Huffington Post there's no leakage. Just reef damage.

    Here's what the Huffington Post has to say.

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    USS Guardian Aground: Crew Leaves Navy Ship Stuck In Philippines

     
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    another photo.. does not look like she's sinking to me. I hope the whole situation is solved soon.

    when I get home I'll post better photos...
     
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