USN to hold exercises in response to Sino-Russian alliance

FreeAsia2000

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New Asian Naval Exercises Announced
Agence France-Presse | February 15, 2006
Amid persistent warnings about China's growing military clout, the US military said Tuesday it would hold one of its biggest naval exercises in the Asia Pacific this summer.

The large-scale operations will involve several carrier strike groups, each of which includes at least three warships, an attack submarine and a support ship.

Four carriers would be involved in three military maritime exercises -- one of them touted as the world's largest -- between June and August in the region, Commander of the US Pacific Fleet Admiral Gary Roughead said in Washington.

Two of the exercises are expected to be largely confined to US forces and held in the Western Pacific while the third involving navies from at least eight countries, including Australia, Chile, Japan, South Korea and Peru, would occur near the Hawaiian Islands.

While the war games would boost bilateral and multilateral cooperation and improve military preparedness, it "also provides a deterrent for anyone who would wish us ill," Roughead told a forum organized by the US-based Asia Society, which aims to bridge ties between the two sides of the Pacific.

A major Pentagon review of US military strategy earlier this month singled out China as the country with the greatest potential to challenge the United States militarily.

The Quadrennial Defense Review (QDR), conducted every four years, said a key goal for the US military in the coming years will be to "shape the choices of countries at a strategic crossroads."

The QDR report noted China's steady but secretive military buildup since 1996.

Some analysts also see recent Sino-Russian rapprochement as a sign of a desire to wrest military and economic power in the Asia-Pacific region from the United States, which is linked by half century military alliances with Japan and South Korea.

It has been at least 10 years since four aircraft carriers have operated in the Pacific Ocean at one time, the Hawaii-based Roughead said, adding that the increased activity was in line with findings of the QDR released on February 6.

His spokesman Navy Captain Matt Brown said it could be the largest combined aircraft carrier operations in the Pacific since the Vietnam War.

Aside from the Japan-based Kitty Hawk, the other carriers to be involved in the exercises are the San Diego-based Ronald Reagan and one more each from the Pacific and Atlantic fleets.

"I think for an East Coast carrier to be operating in the Pacific -- probably Vietnam was the last time we had East Coast ships operating up in the Western Pacific," he explained.

Elaborating on the exercises, Brown said, "As the QDR mentioned, it is important for us to be focusing on the Pacific, to be working with friends and allies in the Pacific.

"And we think that the carriers are a capable multimission platform for gaining familiarisation for forces operating in the Western Pacific."

Citing the massive US-led tsunami relief operations last year in Asia, Brown said, "Our leaders in Hawaii were able to pick up the phone and call counterparts in Singapore, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, New Delhi and rapidly exchange information because they knew each other.

"In a situation where there is a disagreement, wouldn't it be nice to pick up the phone and refer back to rely upon a long term established relationship to hopefully prevent that conflict," he asked.

Brown also said that the US military hospital ship "Mercy," deployed last year to help tsunami-hit Indonesia, will leave this spring on a five-month mission to Southeast Asia.

"We are still working on the locations," he said. "This is follow on to the tsunami experience because we found that it was important and the people benefited and is good to do it again," he said. Mercy is one of two American hospital ships.

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All i can say is here we go again...

How is saying we see China as a threat going to help ? How is holding these exercises going to make China go away ?

In addition the US thinks it's mid-east policy can be somehow independent of the way it is perceived in the rest of muslim south-east asia. Someone in America really needs to sit down and re-read this paper

http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf published by Harvard University at
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IDonT

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You mean like the other dozen naval exercises were different? Please...

Also, show me a document, similar to NATO or US-Japan or Philippines or South Korea defence pact, between Russia and China. There are none, you know why? There is no alliance between China and Russia.
 

MIGleader

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Yeah, yet China is russia's econd largest arms customer, and the two held masive excersises last year. Both are members of the shanghai cooperation organization.

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"On July 16,2001, the presidents of Russia and China signed a Treaty for Good Neighborliness, Friendship and Cooperation in Moscow"

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this source agrees with the above.
 

IDonT

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MIGleader said:
Yeah, yet China is russia's econd largest arms customer, and the two held masive excersises last year. Both are members of the shanghai cooperation organization.

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"On July 16,2001, the presidents of Russia and China signed a Treaty for Good Neighborliness, Friendship and Cooperation in Moscow"

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this source agrees with the above.

Shanghai Cooperation Organization is not a formal military alliance but an intergovernmental organization. Same for the Treaty for Good Neighborliness, Friendship and Cooperation.
 

MrClean

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All these military excersises that are supposed to make points, and show off military might, are just more proof of what unique times we're in. Proof of how the U.S. and China both are at a strategic crossroad, where they could decide to be freinds and allies and pretty much ensure peace for the Asian peininsula, or they could decide to keep doing what their doing, and keep holding more excersises and spending more money on the military budget, and keep pointing more missiles at Taiwan instead of trying to solve the problem diplomatically. The U.S. sees a strong China that is rising to become a major threat to their presence in the Asian region, and that may actually be China's goal. And no matter how economically dependant on eachother they are, these two countries don't take threats lightly. What happens is that the U.S. and China become more distant from eachother diplomatically and end up in an arms race or full blown conflict, or something major will happen which will solidify the U.S. and Chinese relationship as allies.
 

MIGleader

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IDonT said:
Shanghai Cooperation Organization is not a formal military alliance but an intergovernmental organization. Same for the Treaty for Good Neighborliness, Friendship and Cooperation.

True. China and russia have denied any formal military alliance. But the 2005 excercises create a good idea of their military relations. Simply because russia is very economically intertwined with China, and vice versa, it would be in the interests of one to defend the other.
 

adeptitus

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MrClean said:
All these military excersises that are supposed to make points, and show off military might, are just more proof of what unique times we're in. Proof of how the U.S. and China both are at a strategic crossroad, where they could decide to be freinds and allies and pretty much ensure peace for the Asian peininsula, or they could decide to keep doing what their doing, and keep holding more excersises and spending more money on the military budget

You don't need to be friends or allies to be at peace. Good fence make good neighbors. A century ago some people predicted that the US would clash with England in the Atlantic, a rising power vs. established power. That didn't happen. US and Russia spent decades in the cold war, pointing thousands of nukes at each other. Yet the two sides never engaged each other directly, only through proxy.

In some way, it's better to have regular military exercises where both sides can look and see exactly what the other guy has and is doing. Then there's no unknown/question mark that lead to bad calculations.
 

Finn McCool

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The China threat theory is going to ruin the this century. The US is making the same mistake it has made several times already. We were scared on the USSR. We could have been allies, all the White western nations ruling the world. But mutural misunderstandings and fear got in the way and we had the Cold War. The same with China in WWII. The US was so afraid of communism that we backed the doomed Chiang regeime and instead could have been allies with the bigget country on Earth. The United States has another chance. It can have a friendly relationship with China and usher in an era of peace unseen since the Congress of Vienna in 1815 or we can have another Cold War, with all the human and economic destruction it will bring. Exercices like this are simply causing the CCP:china: leadership to view the US the same way Stalin did in the late 1940s:suspicion and fear. We should stop exercices like this.
 

renmin

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IDonT said:
You mean like the other dozen naval exercises were different? Please...

Also, show me a document, similar to NATO or US-Japan or Philippines or South Korea defence pact, between Russia and China. There are none, you know why? There is no alliance between China and Russia.
I beg to differ, the point of Peace mission 2005 was to form a sort of alliance between China and Russia, while this is not confirmed, the main goal was to so that, China would come to the aid of Russia in thier problems, and Russia would come to the aid of China. A alliance is forming and that is fact. believe it or not, another joint excercise is planned, dont know when, heard it on Chinese news. The whole goal of Peace mission 2005 was to lead to a alliance, and it seemed it worked pretty well.
 
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