USN fearful of PLAN subs

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MIGleader said:
rommel, america is not a peace seeking country. they start wars or get involved in ones they shouldn't.

the pax americana is over. you can think of bush as commodus. the effects will take a while to feel.
Rome lasted another 200 hundered years after commodos. The eastern Roman empire lasted until the 1400's.
 

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i was making my point in a joke. the Us will not follow the exact same path as rome. the Us may last alot longer, but no longer superpower.
 

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FriedRiceNSpice said:
China also has AWACs and EW-capable aircraft like the HD-5.


Whihc uses Russian base radar. Prowlers and other ELINT aircraft will make those useless. They can Jam them, make them see radar ghost, interfere with communications, give false vectors to Su-27's, etc.
 
MIGleader said:
i was making my point in a joke. the Us will not follow the exact same path as rome. the Us may last alot longer, but no longer superpower.

The US will most likely last until like the year 3000. By the, all the nations of the earth would most likely unite to meet an extraterrestial threat.
 

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FriedRiceNSpice said:
Except the 956EM have the lattest Russian radar and electronic countermeasures, as well as conventional countermeasures. As for speed, the 956EM might not be the fastest of ships, but it is fast enough for its mission. Its not like a FAC or anything like that.


The Sovremmeny has been around since the early 80's and has change a little since its inception with the Soviet Navy. The US has find several ways around its electronic suites.
 
IDonT said:
The Sovremmeny has been around since the early 80's and has change a little since its inception with the Soviet Navy. The US has find several ways around its electronic suites.

You are forgetting that many of the systems used on the 956EM is completely different from the ones used on the 956E.
 

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FriedRiceNSpice said:
You are forgetting that many of the systems used on the 956EM is completely different from the ones used on the 956E.


Not really, its main air search, surfacema nd fire control radar are not that different.

Here is what they have:
DETECTION SYSTEMS


Radar System:
Air Search: Top Steer (Onboard First Three)
Plate Steer (Onboard 4th & 5th)
Top Plate (All Others), 3D
Surface: 3 Palm Frond
Navigation: Unknown
Fire Control: Band Stand
6 Front Dome
Kite Screech
2 Bass Tilt


Sonar System: Bull Horn and Steer Hide (Hull Mounted)
 

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The latest Aegis system, the Mk7 Baseline 7B can control ALL integrated fleet defenses.

That's guns, missiles, and Jamming..
 

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FriedRiceNSpice said:
Yes, Yuans will work much better than Kilos. But the 956EM is argueably the best surface-to-surface combatant currently in service. It is more deadly at the surface-to-surface role than the Aegis cruisers.


A Burke destroyer can, in theory, carry 96 harpoons.
But standard load out includes 8 Harpoons, up to 96 standard sams.
Standard missiles can target, and have sunk, surface ships. 4 standard missiles traveling at mach 3 will put on fire the Sovremmny.
 
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