USN Burke Class - News, Reports, Data, etc.

Jeff Head

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All will be fitted with the latest Aegis Baseline 9 combat system which includes state of the art air defense, ballistic missile defense, surface warfare and undersea warfare capabilities. The three Flight I ships will also receive upgrades including a fully-integrated bridge, improved machinery, damage control and quality of life improvements, an advanced galley and commercial-off-the-shelf computing equipment.
This is part of the reason why the Burke Class is such an effective class of modern destroyers.

They were designed to be able toi be upgraded like this. Their systems were designed to be upgraded.

Through their yard maintenance periods and mid-life refits, all of the Burke DDGs are getting upgraded...and will continue to do so.

62 of these vessels have been built and at least 13 more will be built, and probably 26 more altogether.

Good, seaworthy hull forms. GREAT design with a lot of capacity designed in for upgrades and modernization. They will far and away outlive me...and probably all of my kids.

My grandkids will be old before they are fully replaced by whatever comes next.
 

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I think this ship is what burke III should be replaced with, or rather should have been -- studied decades ago when burkes had yet been built, the CGBL AKA cruiser baseline was a 13,500 ton ship combining burke and VLS-tico technology into a large, true cruiser hull.

CGBL_Guided_Missile_Cruiser_Baseline_1980.jpg


It was never built of course, as burkes and ticos were more than enough for USN's missions back then. But I think the original DDX programme should have been scaled back for something a little less ambitious, and CGBL would have been a nice option. It had a conventional but large hull, that was both large enough to accommodate current weapons of the time and future upgrades for future variants, including more power that would've been needed for AMDR and probably even IEPS.

I think it would have been just the right size to meet USN needs to replace ticos and fill the role burke III is meant to have in the forseeable future.
Interestingly, the projected CGBL has a similar displacement and even relative capability to what 055 is predicted to have in PLAN.


This is a nice 3d render I found of a modernized CGBL

cruiser47_zps7178b80e.jpg
 

shen

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I think this ship is what burke III should be replaced with, or rather should have been -- studied decades ago when burkes had yet been built, the CGBL AKA cruiser baseline was a 13,500 ton ship combining burke and VLS-tico technology into a large, true cruiser hull.

CGBL_Guided_Missile_Cruiser_Baseline_1980.jpg


It was never built of course, as burkes and ticos were more than enough for USN's missions back then. But I think the original DDX programme should have been scaled back for something a little less ambitious, and CGBL would have been a nice option. It had a conventional but large hull, that was both large enough to accommodate current weapons of the time and future upgrades for future variants, including more power that would've been needed for AMDR and probably even IEPS.

I think it would have been just the right size to meet USN needs to replace ticos and fill the role burke III is meant to have in the forseeable future.
Interestingly, the projected CGBL has a similar displacement and even relative capability to what 055 is predicted to have in PLAN.


This is a nice 3d render I found of a modernized CGBL

View attachment 10555

pretty much what PLAN is doing with 055 with modern technologies.
 

Blitzo

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Square arrays on Burke III -- America should stopping ripping off China.

hehe, well actually the AMDR-S is a octagonal shaped array, but I appreciate the humour
 

bd popeye

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Square arrays on Burke III -- America should stopping ripping off China.

I assume you are joking..however, In case you did not know Ticonderoga class CGs had & have panel type array radar panels long before China ever started building its bluewater navy.

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Starboard bow view while on Builders Sea Trials in the Gulf of Mexico, 7 MAY 1982.

Photo by Litton Shipbuilding Co.

...And the single class USS Long Beach(CG 9) and USS Enterprise(CVAN 65) had panel type radar over 50 years go.

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This photo identifies all the antennas on the Long Beach. These photos are from mid-1962 or earlier due to the absence of the 2 5"/38 gun mounts amid-ships.

Photo #rg19nn-b1579-001-065_pr from Record Group 19 at NARA II

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This is a photo OF USS Enterprise (CVAN 65) operating in the Atlantic circa 1967. You can clearly see the radar panels attatched to the island. Enterprise was commissioned 25 November 1961.
 

Blitzo

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@popeye, clearly Lethe was being facetious.

And technically, none of the arrays you listed haves the square array shape of 052D, if we are being picky hehe
 

Lethe

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Yes, I was joking -- just reversing the habit of many American commentators in matching any feature they can find in common between Chinese and American hardware and declaring 'rip-off!'
 

bd popeye

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Yes, I was joking -- just reversing the habit of many American commentators in matching any feature they can find in common between Chinese and American hardware and declaring 'rip-off!'

Got it.

Yes I'm also tired of the claim that most Chinese military gear is cloned..all coming from these so called experts. It gets tiresome.
 
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