USMC future MBT

Im cross posting this from shipbucket but i wanted some more input on it.


So I wanted the bucketeers opinion on this i know its not ships but it is naval related.

Now as of today the USMC's goal is to make it a high mobile force and its current procurment and development plan reflects, this with the of the EFV, MPC and JLTV forming the heart of Future Marine Corps heavy vehicles. This leaves very little money left for modernization of the MBT fleet much less a replacement.



This being said it will be interesting to see what the army's new GCV will look like but Im thinking it will be very modular and draw a lot from FCS and will include the option for a future MBT.



Also another option might be to buy foreign for the Marines the CV90120-T looks like it is an amazing platform and its light which makes it suit the marines requirements. And the Marines in recent history have never had a problem buying foreign.

Finally something that isn't really being talked about at all ( I think i might of postulate this question altogether) and that is to use the EFV frame as the basis for a MBT, because if you remove the troop carrying requirement its pretty much a empty hulk with a lot of space that could be filled.

Thoughts?

I am not him but my $0.02 any way
Too Tell the Truth I don't think the EFV is suited too the Role, I side more with the MPC. the Marine Personal Carrier Is intended too replace the LAV family And Like the LAV the Marines seem too be looking at 8x8 Wheeled Platforms, Now Using Elements of the now dead FCS manned Vehicles In particular the Mounted Combat System. I could see a MPC out fitted like the Save it's Packing a 120mm Cannon. I can Also see a Version of the US Army's up and coming ground combat vehicles equipped the same way.
May be they will even use the same vehicle Family.
Know bidders For the MPC are ( If the Army Does buy these I hope they push for a new version of the tracked version) ,

the bucketeers are thouse who use shipbucket lol

i think the lockmart AMV will win but I never thought of useing the FCS MCS 120mm on the MPC, I just think that would make the EFV more viable to make it an Amphibous MBT as well as a Advanced IFV.


Safe money would be a CV90120-T

In Order too convert the EFV too a Light tank Role here are the issues needed too be over come.
First weight. The EFV's strength is it's Amphibious. conversion too a tank platform would require Determining the Amount of weight that could be added well still allowing it too be amphibious.
Second Turret Placement. Placing the Turret and ammo in the Current Crew Compartment is not a sound location unless the Vehicle's Power Pack is moved too a new location as that area on the Roof of the Vehicle is currently used for the Engine Air intake and Exhaust pipes.

The CV 90120 t is an option however as stated the USMC has little in it's budget for a MBT upgrades or procurement.hence i lead back too the MPC

As for the M1E3 here's a guess as too what will happen too it, First the Main Gun will be the Same XM360 cannon under testing for the FCS MCS as it weights a third what the M256 weights and has better range, the GE L100-5 power plant, Spaced composite armor remote weapons stations, Active defense systems and upgraded fire control systems.

yea i kind of forgot about the weight part. But If they could work that out they would have an amazing machine

Weight is everything literally you have too find that nich between light enough for transport and heavy enough for survival,

TerraN_EmpirE said:

Weight is everything literally you have too find that nich between light enough for transport and heavy enough for survival,

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I agree but i think if you remove some of the enhanced C2 equipment, the 30mm cannon and its munitions handling equipment and the 15 fully equipped marines i think you should come up about even if you put a XM360 120mm, the turret, and its ammo.

a 120mm turret with auto loader is way heaver then a Mk44 turret, the coax also adds weight fire control and ammo too that's also skimping on armor. and you would have relocate the power pack and install protection for the crew from the ammo.

I thing the narrow focus of the current US military leadership on counterinsurgency warfare will bite the US in the butt in a future conflict with a near peer military. Can't find much of anything open source on a notional M-1A3 light weight Abrams.
I think a version of the Swedish FV-90 would be an outstanding replacement for the LAV, but I have to wonder what would happen if a big gun version of these ran up against modern MBT's crewed by a well trained Army. Successful armored warfare means your tanks have to be able to sustain hits and continue to fight. That means armor and lots of it.