one of the few USN projects that has really been managed well. I can't think of a USN platform that's a better bang for the buck so to speak.
US Navy Virginia Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
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one of the few USN projects that has really been managed well. I can't think of a USN platform that's a better bang for the buck so to speak.
These CM in VLS or modules allow to 688 VLS, 688I and Virginia carry 12 CM in more their 26 weapons in the torpedo room.
But these sytems allow carry only CM.
Then Seawolf with this big torpedo tubes 660 mm is more versatile carry 50 ams all types.
For future Virginia Block 5, normaly SSN-802, 29nd, carry in more 4 modules with 7 CM total : 40 CM + 26 torp/cm or others ? : 66 more as Seawolf but less versatile.
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But these sytems allow carry only CM.
Then Seawolf with this big torpedo tubes 660 mm is more versatile carry 50 ams all types.
For future Virginia Block 5, normaly SSN-802, 29nd, carry in more 4 modules with 7 CM total : 40 CM + 26 torp/cm or others ? : 66 more as Seawolf but less versatile.
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Forbin, that is correct, the new tubes in the aft section will each carry 7 missiles (like the Ohio SSGN) as opposed to the "six packs" currently being installed forward. That's 4 x 7 = 28 plus 2 x 6 =12 which totals 40 SLCMs per sub with the Block V boats.
The new "six-packs," and the new group of four tubes to the aft are more versatile than the older 12 individual VLS tubes because they have been designed to be able to accomodate larger and different missiles of the future, where the current individual VLS cells cannot.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
I would repeat my earlyer question but I think it unnecessary as by block V I am betting the navy will have decided to uses a modified Virginia based design for SSBN-X.
One phrase...the Bill Clinton administration.
The cold War was over, and the Clinton administration decided that the Sea Wolf Class was just too expensive, and was built for a Cold War that was over. So, in 1995, it was cancelled.
This led to the NSSN (New SSN) program which later became the Virginia Class.
The Virginia Class is VERY good. They are now more modern, are as quiet, but have sacrificed some performance and armament loadout because they are smaller. And now they are just as expensive now in terms of real dollars.
But their sonars, sensors, quieting, and electronics. are on par, and in some cases, better than the Sea Wolf class.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
There are still some jobs seawolf class can and will always do better, and some that Virginia will out perform sea wolf in.
seawolf frankly would have been the better against a rising number of hostile subs
Virginia was built for a world of failed states.
for special mission use like that of the Jimmy Carter I am betting Virginia would be the better platform. And I hope the navy builds modules that can allow that foe the coming Virginians.
seawolf frankly would have been the better against a rising number of hostile subs
Virginia was built for a world of failed states.
for special mission use like that of the Jimmy Carter I am betting Virginia would be the better platform. And I hope the navy builds modules that can allow that foe the coming Virginians.
The Virginias do not have the size of the Jimmy Carter, but they already have the lock-out type chambers to allow for the carrying and deployment of special forces like the Jimmy Carter, and also like the Ohio SSGN conversions.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
True Virginia is small but these upcoming ssgn Virginias will be larger.
navyreco
Senior Member
Don't know about Astute:
- It is significantly smaller
- BAE had they share of problems with Astute so far. (I was told several times this was due to the fact that when BAE started work on Astutes, their staff kinda lost the experience of building submarines because the last sub they launch was many years ago and most staff involved in the older projects had already retired... I hope it makes sense)
Yes, the Astute has had its problems, but they are working them out. I believe they will be ranked among the best submarines with the Sea Wolf, Virginia, and Yassen in terms of nuclear subs.
When it comes to non-nuclear, I believe the AIP Type 212, Soryu, the later Dolphins, the Scorpenes, and any AIP Yuans are all very dangerous SSKs. The Porject 636 Kilos are also still very dangerous.
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