US Navy Ford Class nuclear carriers
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Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier
1) Mothball them to reserves so we can call them up in a crisis. (See my thread on this area of the forum about my trip to the reserve fleet in Bremerton Washington, on that thread are two carriers that are currently in the reserve fleet).
2. Use them for testing of weapons systems to determine how to better protect them
3. Scrap them
One of those three. The US has not sold a carrier to another country in my living memory.
Well, we...Spartan00006 said:
1) Mothball them to reserves so we can call them up in a crisis. (See my thread on this area of the forum about my trip to the reserve fleet in Bremerton Washington, on that thread are two carriers that are currently in the reserve fleet).
2. Use them for testing of weapons systems to determine how to better protect them
3. Scrap them
One of those three. The US has not sold a carrier to another country in my living memory.
MIGleader
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Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier
it would be very interesting if someone somehow managed to obtain a super carrier from the u.s. if china can aquire enough u.s debt, they could threaten the u.s to pay its dues or surrender some weapons to pay those dues.
stealing one is not so realistic
it would be very interesting if someone somehow managed to obtain a super carrier from the u.s. if china can aquire enough u.s debt, they could threaten the u.s to pay its dues or surrender some weapons to pay those dues.
stealing one is not so realistic
Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier
That might work with a Bill Clinton, but I do not believe it will work with a George Bush or someone like him.
I have always believed that the PRC is looking to the election of 2008 in the hopes another Bill Clinton type will be elected. Lots of power, both economic and miltarily, depending on who is in the White House and what their core values are.
I, of course, do not want to see that type of individual (a Clinton) in the White House again in my life time.
But that is all politics (a very real part of the world) and I prefer sticking to the technical, military info and discussion myself. Sometimes the other is just too depressing...for all of us I am sure.
MIGleader said:
That might work with a Bill Clinton, but I do not believe it will work with a George Bush or someone like him.
I have always believed that the PRC is looking to the election of 2008 in the hopes another Bill Clinton type will be elected. Lots of power, both economic and miltarily, depending on who is in the White House and what their core values are.
I, of course, do not want to see that type of individual (a Clinton) in the White House again in my life time.
But that is all politics (a very real part of the world) and I prefer sticking to the technical, military info and discussion myself. Sometimes the other is just too depressing...for all of us I am sure.
Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier
Well, as I said, I would rather not get into politics. Suffice it to say that we disagree on all of those points regarding Mr. Clinton.
Now...those pics of the building of CVN-77 represent something that will span many president's terms.
MIGleader said:
Well, as I said, I would rather not get into politics. Suffice it to say that we disagree on all of those points regarding Mr. Clinton.
Now...those pics of the building of CVN-77 represent something that will span many president's terms.
Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier
Well Jeff this thread looks intresting to me. So I will try to post here. I've been having tons of trouble posting in this forum this last few days. I've lost at least 10 post.
Well..
..The USN does have 5 CV's that have been decomissioned. But As far as I can asertain only the Ranger,Independence & Constellation are held in reserve. I'm not 100% sure about that. I can't access the Naval Registar page anymore. Anyway for the USN to re-comission one of these ships would probaly require over $2 billion dollars. These ships have had the propellers, anchors and catapults removed. Along with most electronics and much other equipment.
As far as scrapping them. No way. There are enviromental concerns. I cost the shipyard more to scarp them than what they can salvage off of them is worth. The last carrier scrapped was the USS Coral Sea CV-43. It took 7 years and the ship breaker went bankrupt.
Too read about the scrapping of CV-43 click on the great USS Coral Sea web page and start searching.
As for selling one of these ships to a foreign government. Ain't gonna happen. No way..no how. Even a stripped down CV is too much tecnology to give away.
Well Jeff this thread looks intresting to me. So I will try to post here. I've been having tons of trouble posting in this forum this last few days. I've lost at least 10 post.
Well..
..The USN does have 5 CV's that have been decomissioned. But As far as I can asertain only the Ranger,Independence & Constellation are held in reserve. I'm not 100% sure about that. I can't access the Naval Registar page anymore. Anyway for the USN to re-comission one of these ships would probaly require over $2 billion dollars. These ships have had the propellers, anchors and catapults removed. Along with most electronics and much other equipment.As far as scrapping them. No way. There are enviromental concerns. I cost the shipyard more to scarp them than what they can salvage off of them is worth. The last carrier scrapped was the USS Coral Sea CV-43. It took 7 years and the ship breaker went bankrupt.
Too read about the scrapping of CV-43 click on the great USS Coral Sea web page and start searching.
As for selling one of these ships to a foreign government. Ain't gonna happen. No way..no how. Even a stripped down CV is too much tecnology to give away.
Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier
So, they are either mothballed for reserve...or mothballed awaiting some other form of disposal...like the America...or just to be scavanged over time I suppose.bd popeye said:
I guess we have put too many laws in the way of that. I know we scrapped dozens of large WWII class carriers. But if we can't do it profitably...then we simply can't do it.bd popeye said:
Agreed 110%bd popeye said:
Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier
Jeff..Check you real email I sent you an intresting page!
Jeff I really think the US should take the Constellation and Independence and re-fit them has "speical Forces" ships. They could carry SEALS,Rangers USMC recon. Or regular Army and USMC troops like a super LPH. All sorts of equipment i.e. helos, vehicles and all assoicated equipment would be on board. Much like the USS America was equipped to invade Hati in the 1990's. USAF & US Army helos could deploy on board for many different type missions.
The ships could be stationed on each coast and be ready in time of crisis.
The ships could also be use to transport large amounts of equipment whenever & where ever necessary. Of course the ships could be use in humanitarian missions.
Otherwise these fine ships will be at the bottom of Davey Jones locker.
Jeff..Check you real email I sent you an intresting page!
Jeff I really think the US should take the Constellation and Independence and re-fit them has "speical Forces" ships. They could carry SEALS,Rangers USMC recon. Or regular Army and USMC troops like a super LPH. All sorts of equipment i.e. helos, vehicles and all assoicated equipment would be on board. Much like the USS America was equipped to invade Hati in the 1990's. USAF & US Army helos could deploy on board for many different type missions.
The ships could be stationed on each coast and be ready in time of crisis.
The ships could also be use to transport large amounts of equipment whenever & where ever necessary. Of course the ships could be use in humanitarian missions.
Otherwise these fine ships will be at the bottom of Davey Jones locker.