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    Boeing unveils upgraded F-15 Silent Eagle

    PICTURES: Boeing unveils upgraded F-15 Silent Eagle with fifth-generation features-17/03/2009-Washington DC-Flight International

    Boeing today unveiled a new F-15 prototype aimed at the international market with such "fifth-generation" add-ons as radar absorbent coatings, internal weapons carriage and integrated digital avionics, plus featuring a distinctive V-tail.

    Improving the fourth generation fighter’s profile on air-to-air radar is Boeing’s key goal for the F-15SE, which the company plans to offer to five foreign countries with an estimated market for 190 orders.

    Radar absorbent materials added to leading edges are designed to soften the F-15SE’s head-on radar signature. Canting both vertical stabilizers by 15° is intended to reduce radar returns to the side.

    Finally, embedding missiles and bombs inside conformal fuel tanks also reduces radar signature in all directions, and allows the F-15SE to perform its warfighting mission even with “clean” wings.

    Boeing claims the end-result is an aircraft that can match the frontal-aspect stealth profile of any fifth generation fighter in configurations cleared by the US government for export release.

    “We know we can get to the US government release level for international customers,” says Brad Jones, Boeing’s manager for future F-15 programmes.

    To be fair, Boeing acknowledges the F-15SE’s stealth improvements do not help against ground-based radar systems, which are critical for waging offensive strikes against opponents armed with surface to air missile systems. Lowering the F-15SE’s thermal signature - a critical stealthy feature for the Lockheed Martin F-22 - is also not part of Boeing plans.

    But Boeing says the F-15SE is aimed at international customers more likely to use the aircraft for defensive, counter-air missions, rather than offensive strikes in defended airspace where all-aspect stealth is necessary for survival.

    Despite the stealth improvements, Boeing insists the F-15SE would not tradeoff sensor or aerodynamic performance. The Raytheon APG-63(V)3 radar would remain canted slightly forward rather than tilted back, preserving coverage and range at the expense of head-on radar cross section.

    Moreover, Boeing has designed the F-15SE to also function as a non-stealthy, multi-role aircraft with the F-15E’s full payload of 13,200kg (29,000lb) of weapons. The conformal fuel tanks with the internal weapons bay can be quickly removed after landing, allowing the aircraft to takeoff with a full payload within 2h.

    Another key feature of the F-15SE is the electronic warfare system. Boeing has selected the BAE Systems digital electronic warfare system (DEWS), which includes a digital radar warning receiver, digital jamming transmitter, integrated countermeasures dispenser and an interference cancellation system. The aircraft could continue to jam enemy radars even as its own radar and RWR continues to operate, Boeing claims.

    Boeing launched the F-15SE, initially dubbed "Project Monty", last September. The company-owned F-15E testbed was quickly modified with the V-tail and conformal fuel tanks to provide a ground-based demonstrator.

    Flight trials for a risk reduction programme are scheduled to begin in the first quarter of 2010. The first aircraft could be available for delivery to foreign customers three years after a deal is signed. Boeing plans to offer the F-15SE to Israel, Japan, Singapore, Saudi Arabia and South Korea, with all being current F-15 customers.

    Notionally, Boeing estimates the F-15SE’s cost, including airframe, spares and training, at $100 million each.

    The F-15’s single-largest customer – the US Air Force – is not officially a sales target for the F-15SE. However, Boeing says that all of the stealth, avionics and structural upgrades can be retrofitted on any existing F-15E. Company officials have briefed three agencies within the US Air Force, including Air Combat Command, but only as a “courtesy”, the company says.
     
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    It seems F-22 production is not over just yet. Buying long lead items for additionaly fighters has been approved.
    And it even seems like the road for a downgraded export version may come up in the distance.
    Plus, there's also more C-17s.
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    http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4144686&c=AME&s=AIR

    F-22 Funds Approved in Wee-Hours Vote

    By william matthews
    Published: 17 Jun 2009 17:04


    It hasn't flown in combat yet, but the F-22 stealth fighter prevailed in a life-or-death battle in an early-morning vote June 17 by the House Armed Services Committee.

    After more than 16 hours of squabbling over the 2010 defense budget, weary committee members voted 31-30 at 2:30 a.m. to keep the F-22 program alive by making a $369 million down payment on 12 more planes.

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    The $369 million would buy advance procurement parts to begin production on a dozen new fighters. Ultimately, the planes would cost about $2.8 billion.

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    But the fighter is popular in Congress, where it is praised as providing the Air Force with a high-tech advantage over potential foes, and is prized for creating jobs. Plane maker Lockheed has emphasized that the F-22 program employees 25,000 workers directly and another 90,000 in companies that produce F-22 parts in 44 states.

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    Bishop was able to shift $369 million for the F-22s from defense environmental cleanups at sites that are projected to be ahead of schedule or are at risk of not being able to spend money allocated for 2010, the aide said.

    It's enough to keep the F-22 production line from shutting down, but Bishop and others on the committee believe the Air Force needs more than 12 additional F-22s, he said.

    While the Armed Services Committee was saving future F-22s, the full House approved spending $600 million to buy the final four planes that Gates wants. Money for those planes is included in a $106 billion "emergency supplemental" bill used to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Language in that bill prohibits using the F-22 money to shut down the F-22 production line, and it permits the Defense Department to consider building a less capable version of the F-22 for sale overseas.

    The war-funding bill thwarts Gates' efforts to end another aircraft program, the C-17 cargo plane.

    Gates said the 205 C-17s that are already in the fleet or under construction are enough, and he included no money in the 2010 defense budget for additional C-17s. But the House and Senate added $2.7 billion to war-funding bill to buy eight C-17s and seven smaller C-130J cargo planes.

    The additional C-17s are "pure pork," said Christopher Hellman, a defense budget analyst for the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation. Buying more C-17s "can only be characterized as a jobs program."

    And C-17 maker Boeing has done just that. In February the company boasted that C-17 production sustained 30,000 jobs in 43 states, with concentrations in California, Texas, Missouri and Connecticut.
     
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    Background Info: at this point in time only the USAF and US NAVY are wearing the older issue Desert Combat Uniform variant of the BDU uniform system, the USMC hass fully replaced it's it there own Camoflague utilities the US army with the ACU. but this is aimed it seems at the Army who's ACU uses a "Universal Camouflage pattern" which tends too get a bad rap but seems too work well in mountain terrine. the Air force and Navy are however more blatant in there lack of blending there new uniforms the Airman battle uniform and Navy work uniforms stand out like pink on a priest. the ABU has a better chance though of blending then the NWU the NWU with it's blue black and Grey can only really work in... I a cave...a deep dark cave with no light... if that.

    this also comes before the Addition of the AC27J StingerII gunship enters service.
    Speaking of the C27J
    A foolish choice too cut the army out but worse so too then cut the order.
    Remember Routine just means there's more danger because of the False sense of security.
    A troubling trend that also shows this insurgency may turn too a conventional infantry fight.
     
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    Now that is funny!

    The NWU(Navy working uniform) was never intended to be worn anywhere but at sea and on shore stations. Certainly it was never intened for a combat environment...

    And I'm sure TerraN_EmpirE knew that..;):p:D
     
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    I did know that the closest the NWU was meant too go was the end of the flight line. but even that's a stretch I mean the uniform has a Camo style pattern too it yet it's only meant too hide the mustard stain from noon chow? really who came upwith this idea the pattern only works if your In Blue man group.

    I think I read not too long ago that the navy seals were testing a commercial uniform from Black hawk The High performance fighting uniform or HPFU not too be confused with the Harry Potter Fanfic Updates which are very very disturbing o_O...

    this uniform systems was developed based loosely on the Crye precision uniform system originally developed for the Objective Warrior system and uses a USMC style Desert pattern. IMHO the Navy should Taylor the NWU too the USMC utility uniform cut offer a Fire retardant version for the flight line and offer slightly modified USMC utilities for actual combat wear like how they do the uniforms for Navy Corpsman and chaplains attached too Marine units the changes replace the USMC eagle globe and anchor with the USS Constitution and remove the miniaturized USMC logo's from the camo pattern. All the services might want too adopt a new flight suit with a multicam pattern and the airforce should conduct a major rebuild of it's uniforms the ACU seems too work well enough although a few touches in the cut and trimmings might be in order.
     
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    TerraN_EmpirE, your contributions to the forum are outstanding. You are very detail oriented. Outstanding post!

    You know what T_E? Ever since the day that I joined the USN on 25.08.1971 the USN has been "adjusting" all their uniforms in one way or another. Believe me... it gets old. Even though I'm retired...

    Go to this link;
    Navy News Service - Eye on the Fleet

    And type "Navy working uniform" in the search box on the top right of the page to see the different uniforms the navy tested before it adapted the NWU.

    The reason the NWU was adapted because sailors were surveyed about their uniforms some years ago and complained about the dungarees..and this is what happened ..the NWU. and the SU..

     
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    I reckon I'm old fashioned, but I think sailors should look like sailors and wear dungarees or something darn close. They aren't soldier wannabes. On a similar note, how about their new working uniform? Khaki shirt, black trousers, socks, shoes and a black piss cutter. Fugly! At first glance you think they are Marines. The only good thing about this uniform is it is now easy to return to Summer Whites, the famous old Salt and Pepper uniform during the next go around of uniform changes. A white shirt and combo hat and you're there. You know the reason why this happens? There is a uniform board somewhere and the members need to have something to write on their resumes and fitness report brag sheets, so they mess with the uniform regs all the time. I thought Secretary Lehman nailed the lid on the coffin of that crap, ( he disestablished the old uniform board ) but apparently the old corpse is alive and well again. What's next?
     
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    The C-27J program is an unmitigated cluster. The origin of the program was an Army requirement for a small cargo plane that could resupply isolated Army bases in Afghanistan, saving their troops from running the gauntlet of IED's and Taliban ambushes. When initially proposed, the USAF said they had no requirement ( well of course they didn't, it was an Army requirement ) so they opposed it. Then USD (AT&L) and the Vice Chairman of the JCS basically stuffed it down the USAF's throat, but it was intended to be a joint Army/Air Force program, each service flying identical airplanes. Naturally the USAF then tried to gold plate the thing, each time being shot down by the USD (AT&L) and the Vice Chairman. Finally, the services agreed on a single configuration for the airplane, with the only difference being the USAF model could do medevac. Even with that, the paint the Army versions would use is banned by Air Force regs while the paint the USAF were to use on their is banned by Army regs! See why stuff costs so much and takes so long to field in the US.
    Still, it only took them six years ( only! ) to take an existing 30 year old air plane from concept to production ( ok, they fitted C-130J engines, props and avionics to make the supply chain simple ) and this was hailed as a great acquisitions success. They made a big deal of this at a acquisitions symposium earlier this year. The acquisitions process is completely broken, but that is just my opinion.
    Now I see the program has been cut from eighty something aircraft to only 38, and all of these will be Air Force aircraft. Amazing. The Army is the service that needs them, not the Air Force. The program manager of C-27J managed the Comanche program when it was axed ( actually he proposed canceling the Comanche if the money saved would be applied only to other Army aviation programs, quite a courageous move and the reason he was awarded the C-27J program later on ). I wonder how he feels now?
     
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    Well stated. Amen.

    Personally I never like dungrees. They just don't wear well. I like the old "Ultilities" that the USN was issuing in the early 70's. That was a very serviceable working uniform. And the old salt and pepper is a uniform that can be worn year round. I never did like the unifor changes. Nobody did.
     
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