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    U.S. foreign policy has been bed rocked on freedom of navigation though international waters since 1812.
     
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    I do not disagree , but they decided that except from everyone else opinion so, if anytime a US vessel gets rammed i will not be surprised :)
     
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    No they haven't. If a PRC flagged warship wants to traverse the gulf or waters around Hawaii that's there right. We might be a little worried about it but it's leagle. Ramming another ship is not free navigation it's hostile Action.
     
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    It's called Freedom of Navigation. Vessels on the high seas have the right to transit open waters freely without provocation or hostile action..

    2handedswordsman..how many days have YOU ever spent at sea on a warship? I spent six years of my USN career actually at sea...just sayin...
     
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    There is a very fine line between what is considered "freedom" and what would be considered purposeful denial to another country, to grow. China with SCS Islands, is no different to what America has done in the Pacific Ocean with Samoa, Marianas, Guam, Midway and Hawaii. By all counts, NONE of these territories have any geographical heritage to the contagious American mainland. Yet American hegemony extends over the entire Pacific Ocean, the largest Ocean on this planet.

    Oh and by the way, the so called "freedom of navigation" card would fly well, when freedom of exercizing free trade is also practiced. Slapping economic sanctions left, right and center. Choking another country's ability to do trade, just because middle America's jobs were exported to China, so that Corporate America becomes filthy rich. Just sounds disingenuous, hypocritical and emblematic of American duplicity and exceptionalism.

    Freedom of Navigation and Free Trade are two hemispheres of the same Globe. You can't talk about exercizing your right to navigate, while you are mutilating Free Trade like a mindless savage.
     
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    Who is "you" in your statement? Do you mean the US Federal Government, the American people..just who is who? Thank you.

    The mission of the US Navy. I remember this from Boot Camp;

    “The mission of the Navy is to maintain, train and equip combat-ready Naval forces capable of winning wars, deterring aggression and maintaining freedom of the seas.”

    As far as freedom of navigation is concerned the UN article 87 states;

    Article 87

    Freedom of the high seas

    1. The high seas are open to all States, whether coastal or land-locked. Freedom of the high seas is exercised under the conditions laid down by this Convention and by other rules of international law. It comprises, inter alia, both for coastal and land-locked States:

    (a) freedom of navigation;

    (b) freedom of overflight;

    (c) freedom to lay submarine cables and pipelines, subject to Part VI;

    (d) freedom to construct artificial islands and other installations permitted under international law, subject to Part VI;

    (e) freedom of fishing, subject to the conditions laid down in section 2;

    (f) freedom of scientific research, subject to Parts VI and XIII.

    2. These freedoms shall be exercised by all States with due regard for the interests of other States in their exercise of the freedom of the high seas, and also with due regard for the rights under this Convention with respect to activities in the Area.

    http://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part7.htm
     
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    US defense industry pushes back on White House’s proposed $33B budget cut https://www.defensenews.com/industr...back-on-white-houses-proposed-33b-budget-cut/
     
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    Columbia-class Program Upping Oversight of Vendors, Components to Stave Off Further Delays https://news.usni.org/2018/11/08/co...endors-components-to-stave-off-further-delays
     
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