US Air Force LRS-B Bomber Thread

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    We had posts and articles about the protest on Friday, and then again on Saturday. We do not need a new article everyday about the protest. We coud find dozens of them.

    We know it is happening, it was not unexpected, so let's see what comes of it.

    In the mean time, discuss the design of the aircraft that has been accepted at this point.

    Thanks.

    DO NOT RESPOND TO THS MKODERATION.
     
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    http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...es-call-200-next-generation-bombers/76016714/
    Advocates Call For 200 Next-Generation Bombers

     
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    Now I'd be extra mad if I was Lockheed/Boeing for losing this contract if these calls for more bear fruit with changes to the original call for 80-100 bombers. Also wouldn't more, say 200, bring down the price per a/c down a whole lot more?
     
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    Good points about LRS-B, they would of course like to seem more LRS-Bs, but they leave open that up-graded B-2 could help fill that gap??

    We have also seen the first tactical use this past week of the TU-160 conducting long range strikes against ISIL in Syria, this is in part a show in force, as well as a good will gesture, as the Russians did in fact alert the US to the mission and the aircraft given their strategic nature.

    The loss of that Russian airliner, and the attacks in Paris have once again pulled the principles together for a change, and reminded them that ISIL is a common enemy, and very dangerous, with a deranged ethos that sees everyone as a threat who doesn't "wear your brand"?? This renewed togetherness is another opportunity to learn something profound, but at least for today it is pulling us together once again against heartless killers, who see themselves as "holy warriors"?

    That the Russians have chosen to use the Tu-160 is illustrative of what long range strike is all about, having the options to hit targets, assess and hit them again if necessary.

    I would remind everyone, that many of the B-2 missions launch from Whiteman AFB here in the heartland of the US, as well B-2s and B-52s fly some very long range missions routinely. This is the FIRST long range strike by a TU-160, they almost always us the Tu-95s and their derivatives for these long range patrol.
     
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    Clearly it would but that is not the main reason for proposing a 200 unit requirement. The Mitchell report goes into the details. Firstly a 100 unit force is insufficient given the task ahead and the report lays out the reasoning. Secondly, a LRSB is the most efficient and effective delivery platform per aim point in an A2AD environment. This is the most effective proposal I have seen to-date against an A2AD threat. Lastly, it is about loiter capability.

    The important case being made is not just the long range strike but the capability to deliver it in an A2AD environment.

    An illustrative comparison using an air strike package example in the 1991 Iraqi war where a force of 75 planes were needed to hit 16 aim points but would only require 1/5 of a B-2 to do the same job (assuming if it was configured to deliver 80 PGM's).

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    this Thread, I guess:
    Opinion: Stealth Matters
    source: http://news.usni.org/2016/02/15/opinion-stealth-matters
     
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    Interesting chart 16 fighters bombers do now with PGM the job of 32 before but the problem is the Fleets have were reduced more than that and you can get more sophisticated armament you need a minimum... now reached almost exceeded mainly in Western Air Services !
     
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    Northrop Bomber Award Upheld After Lockheed-Boeing Protest

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ard-to-build-next-u-s-bomber-is-upheld-by-gao
     
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    100 days dudes :)
    Protest finished and the good news come Northrop can start now ! i want 100+ :cool:

     
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    More details on the fund.

    Boeing have to build P-8, KC-46 etc... LM have win the Jackpot provide the futur Fighter for 3 Air Services and now Northrop can begin.

    Really the best choice and give to USA 3 combat aircraft manufacturers.

    http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/02/real-winners-air-force-bomber-contest/125976/
     
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