Type 055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

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    What are the odds?

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    The red LPG tanker is Navigator Aurora, with a beam of 29.4 m and depth of 19.4 m, displacing a bit over 30,000 tons. She was delivered on Aug 2, with 3 of her sister ships to follow, we can even see the one lining up behind. In the pictures the height of those military looking modules with canted sides are even taller than the Navigator Aurora. With that extra height and a wider beam, this is will easily displace well over 30,000 tons.
     
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    She was in the water in late July, so those modules pictures were taken sometimes in June or early July with her still on the blocks.
     
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    So, much ado about nothing....
     
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    If we assume the structure in Wuhan is a close representative of 055, at least beam wise, modules are quite off. Overall length would be at least 180m. Widely accepted 055 expected displacement,based on Wuhan structures, is less than half of what we saw in modules pictures which would be over 30,000 tons if we compare it to Navigator Aurora. Maybe we are missing something here.
     
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    Good detective work in finding the dimensions of the Navigator Aurora -- however, I wouldn't use the images of the suspected 055 hull modules and the Navigator Aurora taken on the ground as a way of estimating the size of the suspected 055 modules, because there are far too many perspective effects at play that makes confirming relative dimension and size difficult if not impossible.

    The only reliable way to determine 055's beam is a satellite image from the last month or so showing the modules being assembled, and right now the most recent GE image is still from November last year.
     
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    I might as well be entirely wrong here.

    Navigator Aurora was first signed for contracts with the shipyard in mid to late December 2015. It took them less than 8 months to finish the whole thing, first of its kind in size for the intended cargo. We can see in the google map two Navigators are already on the blocks. There was a 052D I believe along side the wharf right next to Navigator, we could see the two military modules sitting on the left of Navigator, you can see the sectional weld lines of the deck plates, not seen in commercial vessels. So, that google map is sometime in 2016 already, could be early spring. 052D is as long as the Navigator, if 055 is supposed to be longer than 052D, which is close to Navigator's overall length of 179 m, then the module length should be longer than 180m. Beam is just a bit over 30m by measuring it. Height we now know from the above picture, higher than Navigator's 19 m. This one is much bigger than Wuhan.
     
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    Err. No, that google earth image you're posting is from 11/15/2015 -- if you check the bottom of GE while over JNCX for that image, you can see "imagery date".

    I'll put a screen shot of it below.
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    As for 052D's dimensions -- no, 052D is only 155m long, not 179m long. You can measure the length of 052D on GE, or even search up its dimensions on the internet (which are accurate).

    As for 055's "beam" and "height" -- both of those things you cannot measure based on the Navigator Aurora from the picture taken on the ground, because we have no idea whether the perspective or relative distance or lens is obscuring anything, and such as whether the Navigator Aurora is in the water etc.
    In other words, there are so many confounding factors at play that the presence of the Navigator Aurora in that photo is almost not helpful at all in trying to estimate what 055's beam is.
     
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    checked the GoogleEarth couple of days ago over the HuDong shipyard, and spotted this "big ship", any idea what it is, commercial or combatant?

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    Well, it depends. It has the lines upfront for a military vessel. At the rear...a little harder to tell. It appears too rounded aft...but that might not be the ship[. If the ship cuts off square back there, then that could possible be a helo deck.

    Here is a comparison to the mockup of the Type 055 for example, with the mockup turned to the appropriate angle and scaled appropriately:

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    Hard to say if it is military or not...but the red outlined portion I put in there is definitely the military mockup of the Type 055.
     
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