CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread
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Mass production can reduce costs by an order of magnitude. If Chinese want to compete with the USA, which has 12 Nimitz supercarriers, 10 Wasp carriers, 1 America carrier, plus the carriers of the allies they could call upon (2 in the UK, 1 in France, plus the pocket carriers of the Australians, Japanese, and South Koreans which could be like 8), they need IMHO at least 8 CATOBAR carriers, preferably 12 carriers, to make those the size of the Nimitz is IMHO a useless expense. It makes them juicier targets for enemy submarines. Also you have to remember, the USA won WW2 while having smaller carriers than the Japanese. But they produced them in larger numbers. The Japanese took years to build a carrier. They started building a carrier when the war started and when the war was over it still wasn't finished. The USA built several carriers while the war was in progress. In fact they had to rebuild most of the Pacific Fleet they lost at Pearl Harbor while also building massive numbers of transport ships to replace the merchant vessels the Germans sunk in the Atlantic. They did that with mass production of common ship designs over several shipyards.
The Russians had larger ships than the Japanese at the Battle of Tsushima, but they were further away from their supply lines and had worse knowledge of the terrain had poorer tactics and less ships so they still lost.
Fact is we still don't know if a carrier force would survive a near peer war. So spending money on supercarriers seems IMHO to be counter productive.
The Russians had larger ships than the Japanese at the Battle of Tsushima, but they were further away from their supply lines and had worse knowledge of the terrain had poorer tactics and less ships so they still lost.
Fact is we still don't know if a carrier force would survive a near peer war. So spending money on supercarriers seems IMHO to be counter productive.
There are many scenarios short of a shooting war with the US in which PLAN CSGs are the most useful tool.
003 -- i.e.: the first CATOBAR carrier which is conventionally powered, and formerly known as 002 -- is said to be around 80,000 tons
We don't know how big the eventual first CVN will be.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
110k is largest carriers can get
It’s a optioned size and weight highly doubt anyone will exceed it not because they can but because you don’t
It’s a optioned size and weight highly doubt anyone will exceed it not because they can but because you don’t
Intrepid
Major
This is the dedicated 003 thread, so you are right.
From whom did you hear 003 would be 350 meters long and 110,000 tons heavy?
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Anyone else know about the blogger who is reporting that 003 and 004 will be built at JNCX
and DL is going to build 005 and 006 CVN?
This would make sense as nuclear industry is governed by a different set of regulations and procedures
They could not split those into two shipyards, having one nuclear shipyard would ensure all those assets stay in one place and also cost less
So we could see DL retooling now to gear up for 005 next year 2019
and DL is going to build 005 and 006 CVN?
This would make sense as nuclear industry is governed by a different set of regulations and procedures
They could not split those into two shipyards, having one nuclear shipyard would ensure all those assets stay in one place and also cost less
So we could see DL retooling now to gear up for 005 next year 2019
There is no such rule in this universe. That said, the report that 003 will be 110K is probably fanboistic wet dreaming.