Trade War with China

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    That seems likely. And it should not be tolerated.
     
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    It wouldn't be the first time. Lighthizer was very disrespectful towards the Japanese officials during the 1980s USA-Japan trade conflict as well:

    "The trade talks on steel imports were dragging on, and Robert Lighthizer didn’t care for the Japanese offer. So he folded it into a paper airplane and launched it across his desk at Japan’s lead negotiator… The 1985 deal capped weeks of negotiations in which Lighthizer, then the deputy U.S. Trade Representative, shocked his Japanese counterparts with rough-hewn jokes and wore them out with his disdain for their proposals, former colleagues recalled. During one Japanese presentation, he devoted his attention to playfully disassembling his microphone."

    https://qz.com/1247295/the-man-behind-trumps-trade-war-once-negotiated-with-a-paper-airplane/
     
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    They might try to browbeat China into submission like they did with Japan. With one notable difference CHINA IS NOT JAPAN I guess these people never realized this fact
    But maybe because they can't differentiate Chinese from Japanese like the cartoon "King of the hill"character who keep asking his Laotian neighbor are you Chinese or Japanese
     
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    now I read
    Commentary: Respect for core concerns prerequisite for settlement of trade disputes
    Xinhua| 2019-05-11 11:11:34 http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-05/11/c_138050413.htm

     
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    China’s Vice-Premier Liu He says ‘small setbacks’ will not derail trade war talks
    • Despite ending without a deal, Beijing’s lead negotiator describes latest talks in Washington as ‘constructive’, says next round will be held in Beijing
    • In candid interview, Liu outlines differences between the two sides but rejects allegations China reneged on earlier commitments
    Updated: 1:39pm, 11 May, 2019 https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...er-liu-he-says-small-setbacks-will-not-derail
     
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    China demands end to groundless suppression of Chinese firms: FM
    Source:Global Times Published: 2019/5/10 18:13:40 http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1149354.shtml

     
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    It won’t end.
     
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    Might makes right. The USA will keep doing these provocations as long as they can get away with it.
    Bullies only respect power. If you can out-muscle a bully, he won't mess with you again.
    Telling the bully to stop won't work. You need to demonstrate strength to make him stop.
     
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    If we think about how the supply chain works. Not only will US manufacturers that rely on Chinese input goods lose competitiveness in overseas, they will also lose to foreign companies that produces similar goods and sell to the US. Small businesses will have no way to handle this and China's industrial capacity cannot be replicated elsewhere in the span of a few years.

    In all, Trump cut taxes for the rich and placed an regressive sales tax on the poor to make up for the loss. In addition, he's killing off small business competitors in favor of giants that can shift logistics more easily.

    Too bad the poor is too dumb to realize this and will still vote for him for his anti-immigration/China rhetoric.
     
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    Rationality only works when both parties in the room are open to it. In the current USA-China trade war, only China is rational. The US govt is too far gone and can't back out now. In the beginning it was a trade dispute. But now, imo, it's pretty a bloodbath war between an old dying king (USA) and the young prince who's next in line for the throne (China). The old king has already lost his rationality and succumbed to fear and paranoia. His entire objective right now is to wipe out any potential threats to his seat of power. Even though the tariffs are doing damage to the US as well, he doesn't care and considers it a small price to pay in order to maintain his hegemony.

    Can't talk sense into an irrational person no matter how hard you try..
     
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