Trade War with China

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  1. PanAsian
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    All the more reason why it is a self-defeating crisis when a country such as the US, a lynchpin of the international financial system, allows people and organizations who committed deplorable things against the public good of the country and the world to practically get away scot free, not to mention continue catering to them and their schemes. This is independent of the nature of psychopaths or how other countries compare.
     
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    We will see more and more of these
    Gree Electric Appliances, a leading air-conditioner maker in China, has invested $160M to establish a chip R&D company, according to a report by The Paper. The company spends almost $640M a year buying imported chips, which AC makers in China are unable to produce domestically.

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    Keep on telling yourself whatever you want to believe while the rest of us live in the real world
     
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    You are living in fantasy world, matey ... :(

    If you were correct, soon you would get a noble price for that "awesome" theory :p:p:p

    Stop wasting everybody's else time :mad::mad::mad:
     
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    本周二,美国总统特朗普在西弗吉尼亚州的演讲中说:“我刚上任那会儿,大趋势是中国要在短时间内超过美国了。而现在,不可能发生这种事情。”这符合他一贯的政治演说逻辑,通过夸张的表述,在选民面前自我表扬护国有功。

    Finally, Trump reveals his true intention of trade war, so now it's clear why he does things harming own farmers and business groups. Those are collateral damages and they are necessary.

    Trump said to people publically in West Virginia. He said now China economy is going down because of trade war, it won't surpass US economy in foreseeable future.

    My other thread of Tibet Water to Xin-jiang will create a new China, it will create an agriculture power house enable China to surpass US GDP.

    It's a psychological barrier, once US GDP surpassed.
     
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    Do you even know what you are arguing about? You throwing nonsense just for the sake of arguing. European and the West today brought in African slavery to do their cheap labor bidding under colonial land they still haven't even created a more economic Utopian society that compare to China today or back than.
     
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    Your graph is stupid and doesn't say what you want it to say. That's consumption as a percentage of GDP. China's spending has grown faster than American spending, but its GDP has grown much much faster than American GDP. Basically, in China's situation, it's showing GDP growth so quick that consumption can't catch up, like if you already live a pretty fulfilling life but your boss keeps doubling your salary every year and you can't think of what you want to buy with the extra money. Now the US chart just shows Americans cutting deeper and deeper into their savings to spend and buy things. I can spike that chart for myself personally if I went to the mall tomorrow and maxed out my credit card with no change to my income. Guy A: earning so much money he can't spend it fast enough even though his spending is rising among the fastest in the world. Guy B: spending more and more of his income and saving less and less. And you say the first guy is the one with the problem? LOL Like I said before: you think you're an economist but you can't even read a chart...
     
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    Wannabe economist
     
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    You made a quite nice salad bowl piling up unrelated things.
    Check the correlation between the negative interest rate on savings, and the decreasing consumption.
    Considering that prior of 201X the Chinese household hasn't got significant debt but they had savings the negative interest rate was a transfer mechanism from the households to the banks/SOEs to recapitalise them.
    They used this money first to make export capacity, second to create a huge infrastructure driven economy.




    So, you saying that the reason why the Chinese doesn't spend money because they salary growing faster than they consumption?
    I think if it is the case then you can expect to see the savings of the households going up.
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    But if I check the above graph it showing the opposite.
    The Chinese household needs loans to reach the expected level of living.
    Without wasting too much time , don't you think that the three graph ( real interest rate, household share of GDP , household debt) showing a different, and very sorry story about the current state of the Chinese consumers?

    So, check the second part of your reasoning, the US consumer who has to go deeper and deeper into the debt.
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    Whops.
    So, the Chinese consumer keeping his minuscule share from the GDP by taking loans like madman, and the US consumer keeping his share by saving.

    I know that on the internet forums the logical thinking is not so popular, but please, can you see the issue with your chain of logic?
     
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    You are the last person on Earth who should be making this charge. That phrase perfectly sums up everything I've ever read of yours here - you really drag the quality of this place down.

    Actually, no. In your case it's not salad in the bowl.
     
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