I'm starting a Thread for the first time (after two years on the SDF), and I won't have a problem if it's the last time so please tell me if China-unrelated, 100+ years old topics are not not suitable for this Forum or anything This week I finally visited the model described in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museu...#Hall_VIII_.E2.80.93_Austria_as_a_naval_power so just one quote If you decided to read on you should maybe first have a look at the animation available at http://www.panaustria.com/vt/110106/index.html (If interested, click on "KARTE", then choose "Seemacht Österreich" (top-left), and you should see something like this: which you can render using + - < > ^ v (bottom-right). I don't think the port side view is available there; it looks like this: During two days, I spent in total two hours and a half in front of this model ... I was watched as if I was an Italian spy 100 years ago ... just kidding, but using flash when photographing is strictly prohibited there; that's one of the reasons why the quality of my pictures is low. Another reason is despite I had looked into Noppen's "Austro-Hungarian Battleships 1914-18" and Friedman's "Naval Weapons Of WW1" before coming, I was overwhelmed, both days ... and I didn't take the pictures of some details in the way I should have -- but that's what I realized during the four hours I was going over my pictures on the train back from Vienna ... LOL! In future posts here, I'll try to describe how the 12" gun turrets operated, based on what I've read and what I figured from the above model plus a separate turret model in that museum ... but don't expect much, one of the problems is I don't know the German language (and the chart in front of the 1:25 model has German-only captions, and the turret model has none), so any comments would be much welcomed!