The US Navy's Five Aircraft Carrier Museum Ships

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    All of these carriers are paying attractions. You have to buy a ticket to get into see them and they all run activities within the museum to make more money. They all have numerous attractions and attempt to operate at least on a break even basis, but are really meant to make a profit for their investors if they can. They have to show that they can cover all the costs (for the carrier setup, the maintenance, the people working there, the utilities, land, etc.) before the Navy approves the final deal.

    So, they take donations, they take investments, they charge to get in, they have items they sell, they sell refreshments, they hold New Year's Eve parties,etc., etc. to raise the initial funds and then keep the money coming in so they are not going under financially.

    As to the initial cost, depending on the condition of the vessel, it can cost many millions of dollars to get started.

    It's a pretty well defined process. In addition to these five carriers, there are maybe ten or more large battleships, a few cruisers and many destroyers and submarines that are operated in this fashion all over the country. They pretty much know what they have to do and if they can clear the initial hurdle of getting started, the vast majority of them then go on to operate for many, many years.
     
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    Several million. I know it cost over $2 Million USD just to paint the hull of the Midway.

    This is the cost of the tours on the Midway.

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    The Midway is a self guided tour. Until you go in the island then there's an old salt to tell you all about the Magic of the Midway. I'm sure they have guide tours.

    I visited the Midway while in San Diego in 2007.

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    popeye signing in as a former Midway crewmember

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    popeye and peepeye in the BRIG!!

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    Dauntless Diver Bomber on the hangar deck.

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    popeye at his old work center off the mess decks

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    A-7 Corsair II on the cat with popeye standing by.
     
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    I was browsing trough above mentioned web sites and I must say USN has very strict criteria for ship donation (financial , environmental , permits from local community etc ... ) . Basically , all of this organizations failed to meet some of this requirements and so their respective ships were withdrawn from donation hold .

    But we are talking about donation . What would happen if , God forbid :p , some unscrupulous scrapping company buys the ship but instead of breaking it up tow it to some nice location in Caribbean with not-so-strict environmental laws and cheaper work force ? Some place where repainting of the ship would not cost 2 million $ ?

    I don't know is it legal in US to sell former naval ships to foreign companies (like they did with HMS Invincible which ended up in Turkey ) but if it is this could be a potential loophole for saving some of these old rust-buckets :D
     
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    The contracts for the scrapping of former US Naval vessels is covered by just as stringent contracts.

    If someone violates that contract, and attempts to take the vessel for untoward ends, the US Navy will repossess the vessel...and I am sure that their "collection" groups are something that could be...well, lets say somewhat overpowering.

    Most of the companies that do the scrapping are well known and already vetted entities who meet the stringent criteria already. There are issues of national security for some vessels (including all of the super carriers, even the Forrestal class), and for the honor and respect of veterans and their sacrifice on these vessels, and the pride and credit of the United States at stake, all of which the US Navy takes very seriously.
     
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    Exactly.. they'll be sending drones over your shipyard if you start goofing up.

    Something like this happened with the Oriskany.

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    Wasn't the Oriskany ultimately sunk as part of a reef or something in 2006? I think that was her final disposition.
     
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    Oh yes she was. My point was that the USN will repo their ships as necessary.

    Th Mighty "O" meets Davy Jones.aaaaarrrrrvvvvv

    USS Oriskany (CVA-34) was sunk on March 22, 2006 as a artificial reef near Pensacola FL.

    Another photo of the Mighty "O Boat".

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    When you look at the high res of this photo, and the angles of the aft and forward flight deck sections, it's pretty clear the scuttling charges broke her back.

    Now owned by the state of Florida, the wreck is actually an underwater museum of sorts itself. People can dive down to her and go through what they can.
     
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    USS Lexington revisited.

    Glad they redid the paint job on several aircraft.

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