The sinking of South Korean Corvette Cheonan

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  1. LesAdieux
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    if it was indeed a torpedo, then it must be an ambush, launched within very close range from a mini-sub, it's very shallow water.
     
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    Just because the water is shallow doesn't mean that it must have been fired from close range or that it must have been a mini-sub. Come on.

    On the torpedo vs. mine question, I think the damage to the ship, particularly the way it was described in the South Korean newspaper graphic posted earlier, is absolutely classic torpedo damage. It's exactly what a large torpedo does to a ship: a large explosion creates a bubble, pushing the ship up, then sucking the ship's keel violently down then back up again in less than a second, and breaking the ship in two.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwWzFSePevw
     
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    What would be evidence of a mine explosion?
     
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    Actually a mine could also create damages similar to that of a torpedo strike as seen in the reference:

    Naval mine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    See the Bubble jet effect as explained in the abovementioned reference.
     
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    NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking - Yahoo! News

    Prepare for war!!!
     
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    A full scale war is by no means inevitable but the situation in Korea has now become a lot more dangerous and unpredictable. Previously I've always thought that Kim was a lot smarter than the Western press portray him as but if he has sanctioned this action then he is an erratic leader and a clear threat to regional peace and stability.

    Public opinion in SK is going to demand retribution but it is difficult to see what action they could take that wouldn't destabilise things further. The U.S. Has enough on it's plater with Afghanistan and Iran and they don't want Korea to be flaring up. However if NK carries out further provocative actions like the sinking of the Cheonan then domestic pressure in SK may be impossible to resist.

    Obviously the key player here is China. If NK is becoming more bellicose and provocative then surely China cannot consider that to be in it's interests. Yes China wants to ensure the survival of the DPRK as a buffer state against SK and Japan but if Kim starts to regularly commit acts of war against his neighbours then that cannot be in China's interests.
     
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    China may not want North Korea to collapse, but it is actually SK does not want to start a full scale war. Most of SK's population center is well within the reach of NK artillery. Since NK already got nukes, they might have problem with delivery but at least they can used in the defense. So stop using China as an scapegoat, any sane SK leader will not want to start a full scale war.

    Naval warfare have been going on in that region since Korean war, you win some and you will lose some.
     
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    My personal opinion was that there will not be a war between SK and NK. Many major powers in that region would not allow it. US will never allow this type of action from SK as long as she is not certain of what China will do.

    China on the other hand would not want the war to escalate in her backyard. Because as soon as SK moves, US and Japan will have a good chance of entering the war.

    Although NK had artilleries, missiles and stuff that can reach SK general population, but if a war really breaks out, it will not be SK and NK business only... we will be seeing the renactment of Korea War... only that now there will be much more advance weaponries and trained troops involved.

    So as long as China and Russia's attitude are not confirmed... SK will not start a war.

    However since SK had already announced that it was NK that had sank the ship, actions needed to be taken or SK's government will not be able to answer to his citizens.

    The best bet is for UN to tighten the embargoment and sanction. And also to remove all SK aids to NK... thus completely cutting NK out from SK. Other than that, there really is not much options left for SK. Of course SK could also tried limited strikes on NK's ships and naval bases. But that might trigger an all out retaliation.
     
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    I'm not scapegoatting China at all, the people responsible for the sinking are the DPRK.

    China is key because it is the only power that could possibly persuade the DPRK to adopt a less belligerent attitude. Whether it can or not is a different matter. It does seem like there are some hotheads in the DPRK who are hellbent on creating a provocation for a major war and that is in no one's interests.
     
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