The relation between China and the neighboring country

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    Mainly Korean overshadow everyone else actually. No one watches Taiwanese drama nowadays. Their golden days like HK tvb are over. Falling way behind mainland productions too.
     
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    https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...ison-vietnam-Nguyen-Xuan-Phuc-US-donald-trump

    When I saw the headline "Australia to get tough on China".

    I thought, OMG, what happened, it's going to be conflict? Is Australia going to send their gunboats and defend other people's territorial claims?

    No, it basically headline about nothing! Australian prime minister talk tough, BUT there's nothing concrete to back it up! Lol. Talk about playing to your own audience (both Vietnam and Australia)!

    The sad thing is Australia still don't know which side of their bread is buttered. In an Australian news channel recently, so much was made of how bilateral trade now stands at $16billion. (memory) And its growing fast.

    Wow that's important! Until you compare bilateral between China & Australia is around $90 billion.

    Even if trade between Australia & vietnam grows at 10% per year, it would take at least 20 years to get any where near China's level. And that's assuming China stand still!

    It was then I realise that this broadcast was purly fo domestic consumption, which just to go to show how easily a message can get distorted to suit an agend!
     
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    Sorry, in my haste to post this, I should have quote the headline:

    "Australia vows to crush Beijing's militarization of contested waters"

    This is some statement!
     
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    All I see is PM Morrison making a few sound bite statement and rest is just a narrative of what the author wanted to sell.
     
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    Maybe, I don't know what he said. So do you know what he actually said?

    I hope he didn't say what the headline suggested! If he did, there goes China relationship down the drain!
     
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    Here's MSM narrative :

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...ison-vietnam-Nguyen-Xuan-Phuc-US-donald-trump
    South China Sea: Australia vows to crush Beijing’s militarisation of contested waters
    AUSTRALIA has teamed up with Vietnam to restrict Beijing’s militarisation of the South China Sea as more Asian nations come forward to phase the aggressive power nation out of the highly territorial waters.

    By Carly Read PUBLISHED: 19:57, Fri, Aug 23, 2019 | UPDATED: 20:06, Fri, Aug 23, 2019
    US and UK ally Australia has announced it will stand up and defend the principle of international law along with Vietnam, the latest Asian country to face aggression from China


    Here's the joint statement:
    https://foreignaffairs.co.nz/2019/08/24/joint-statement-between-viet-nam-and-Australia/
    Joint Statement between Viet Nam and Australia
    By MIL OSI - ForeignAffairs.co.nz

    August 24, 2019
    Source: Prime Minister of Australia
     
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    Thanks for the link. So according to the joint statement, nothing specific was said. It was all waffal.

    The nearest was point 12, where it mentioned South China ses, UNLOCS, and about the militarization of the south china sea!

    Lol, this is so vague, it could apply to anyone, (I know its almost probably aimed at China), as almost every country have militarised the area at some point.

    Also, Vietnam's claim is almost as large as China's and other countries have objected to their claim and behavious (conviently not mentioned in MSM).

    So to sum up, now I seen the statement,
    I believe, it is the MSM that try to sensationlised the statement by "stating Australia has teamed up with vietnam against China, " when nothing of the sort was mentioned.

    I know Australia has a reputation of speaking plainly, (which is why I was concerned of this news). But this transpired to be pure BS for headline!
     
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-vietnam-china-southchinasea-idUSKCN1VE068

    Another fine example of MSM trying to manipulate public opinions.

    So according to MSM China is encroaching with an oil exploration ship plus other ships for protection (due to the behaviour of other claimants) upon Vietnam's EEZ zone which is about 200 miles from their coast line. And this is wrong under UN blah blah. Fair enough.

    But when US, UK and Aus do exactly the same with warships armed to the teeth within China's EEZ, it's ok because they are only conducting their freedom of navigation rights!

    The hypocrisy is too much!
     
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    Here's the news on Vietnam's stance without western agitation. Clearly the recent actions from US and Australia are meant to agitate and promote tension. Their interest lies on raising tension in the SCS judging from their rhetoric and actions. It is not in Vietnam's interest to aggravate the situation either.

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/In...peaceful-solution-to-South-China-Sea-tensions
     
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    Exactly, I don't think it's in any countries in the region's interest to stir up SCS. And that includes China.

    So all these "news" from the MSM about China's assertion, etc. Is all made up to stir trouble.

    The only countries that can benefit from the stir up is USA and OZ. Although I'm not quite sure what OZ get out from this. I think they just still haven't grasp the notion that the world order has moved on, and they need to re-adjust. They really need to see which side their bread is buttered, and the quicker they realise that, the better it is for them and the region!
     
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