The Q-5, J-7, J-8 and older PLAAF aircraft

Jeff Head

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Dear Dongfeng:

I was wondering if you could tell me the external differences between the Soviet Mig.17 and the Chinese J-5/F-5, as can't seem to find any information dealing with the differences.
Bob Hanes - F-102A
Good luck with that.

FYI, Dongfeng has not posted here on SD since 2009, five years ago, and the post you are responding to was from 2006, nine years ago.

As to the two aircraft, the Chinese license built the MiG-17. The PLAAF first obtained a number of Soviet-built MiG-17 day fighters, which they designated J-5 in the 1950s. The PLAAF obtained plans for the MiG-17F fighter in 1955, along with two completed pattern aircraft, 15 knockdown kits, and parts for ten aircraft. So, with the kits from Russia, the first Chinese-built MiG-17F produced by Shenyang made its initial flight in July 1956.

In 1961 plans for the MiG-17PF were obtained, and Chinese production of that aircraft began as the J-5A (F-5A). But this is when the split occurred between the Soviet Union and China the
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Chinese military industrial and technical projects were severely impacted. As a result, the first J-5A did not fly until 1964. A total of 767 J-5s and J-5As had been built when production ended in 1969.

The Chinese also produced a 2-seat version that they called the JJ-5. I believe that they produced over 1,000 of these into the mid 1980s.

Here's some of pics of the Mig-17 and the J-5 (also a JJ-5):


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Mig-17

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J-5

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M-17 in flight

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JJ-5 in flight

 
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siegecrossbow

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Rare photos of J-8III (not a typo) and its WP-14 engine.

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siegecrossbow

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PLAAF working on tactics that helped the J-8F achieve an 1:1 exchange ratio with the Su-30MK2 in a recent exercise. The J-8s used cloud cover and sunlight angle to gain an advantage on the far more capable and agile Su-30s. It is also certainly possible that the Su-30s were flown by less experienced pilots.

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 据央视报道,近日,北海舰队航空兵与东海舰队航空兵举行自由空战对抗演练。北海舰队出动疑似歼-8F战机,与东海舰队苏-30MK2战机对抗。

  演习中,苏-30MK2利用机动优势、近距导弹优势,率先近距抢攻,命中歼-8F;在后续战斗中,歼-8F利用云层、太阳角度进行规避,最终实现“战损比1比0或1比1”的战术目标。
 

Deino

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Interesting to see this old "dinosaur" still flying ... even more that these are of the original-8B (with green radome) and not even the pupdated H.
 

siegecrossbow

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Interesting to see this old "dinosaur" still flying ... even more that these are of the original-8B (with green radome) and not even the pupdated H.

Green radar dome, white paint job, and giant red star on the wings/tail are considered to be the three premier symbols of "PLAAF backwardnes" on Chinese military forums.
 
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