The alleged Chinese theft of ASML IP;stealing useless info & got a bad rep

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  1. antiterror13
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    Actually China had developed much better lithography machine that can produce 22 nm chips and can be tweaked to produced 10 nm chips

    even its obviously behind ASML, but not bad at all ;) ... considering China is a very later starter in this field
     
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    Nah, it’s the same “allegation” as the spy chip story. Their media will say anything to toe the Washington line and right now it’s about to make US look strong even as the trade deal will restrict their actions towards Chinese companies.

    The only concrete proof ever showed regarding China’s spying was gathering intelligence. US is maliciously misappropriating the IP theft term just as they have misappropriated the national security term. The location of CIA officers, OPM personnel information, true capabilities of US military platforms, compromat on US officials, are not intellectual property, at least not as the layman understands it. It is about understanding a potential enemy so actions and preparations can be taken.

    According to their own standards, what the CIA did in Madrid was IP theft. What they are doing in Latin America right now is IP theft. While Intel gathering is the “stealing” of information, very few countries consider it to be IP theft, which is within the commercial and technological realm.
     
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    the links
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201811/30/WS5c006df2a310eff30328be90.html

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201811/30/WS5c00e3d4a310eff30328c17f.html
     
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    Notice its by The Institute of Optics and Electronics under the Chinese Academy of Sciences.
    So it's nothing more than demonstration of concept. It's in the right direction.
    but needs big player like huawei to commercialize the equipment and use in large scale for producton.

    The link I shown you is actual product for industrial usage.
     
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    is spelled with k, as in компромат
    LOL!
     
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    Not China, but Samsung behind espionage at ASML, CEO suggests | NL Times
     
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