Terrorism against Chinese targets

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Assessment of Threats

TIP / Al-Qaeda

Despite the increasing numbers of attacks by networks of Uighur militants in China, the threat to China from such attacks remains an issue of human security—not national security. The rising death toll of Chinese citizens in these attacks are “only” in the several hundreds each year. Even if they were in thousands, however, this would hardly lead China to yield to the demands of groups like the TIP and ETESA for the construction of an Islamic state and ending, among other policies:

· The migration of Han Chinese from eastern China to Xinjiang;

· Use of Chinese language in schools in Xinjiang;

· Encouragement of inter-marriage between Han and Uighurs and job offers for Uighur women in eastern China (where presumably they would assimilate or marry Han Chinese);

· Restrictions on offspring (Uighurs and most Chinese minorities have, however, had fewer restrictions as part of the former “one-child policy” than Han families); and

· Testing of nuclear weapons in Xinjiang (Militant Leadership Monitor, December 30, 2011)

Beyond attacks in China, what also could place pressure on China are actions by states. Thus, TIP, ETESA and other Islamist organizations have adopted a “Palestine strategy” of framing China’s rule in Xinjiang as an “occupation,” delegitimizing Chinese sovereignty, and ultimately seeking an international referendum on Xinjiang’s status (presumably parts of northwestern Xinjiang where Han already far outnumber Uighurs would not be included in such a vote). [1] This strategy may be of greater relevance to China as a state than the human security losses as resulting from Uighur militancy (China Brief, May 23, 2014). While the prospects of any such referendum occurring in the near-term future is highly unlikely, there is some evidence that this narrative is finding sympathetic ears:

· Then Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan called Chinese rule in Xinjiang a “genocide” in 2009 (Hurriyet, July 14, 2009);

· The TIP held territory in northwestern Syria as part of the coalition with Jabhat Al-Nusra with support from Turkey or Turkey-based organizations, which furthered support and recognition of the TIP from supporters of Jabhat Al-Nusra around the Muslim world; [2] and

· The prospect of re-shaping the borders in the Middle East that could lead to new conceptions of sovereignty and statehood—not only in that region but elsewhere throughout the Islamic World, including Central Asia and Xinjiang

Thus, it is the mobilization potential of groups like the TIP or ETESA, which merge pan-Islamist themes with Uighur nationalism while accepting—and even promoting—violent struggle, or “jihad” (even though ETESA may not directly participate in it) that may become the broader national security issue for China to deal with in the future. In fact, China’s counterterrorism success in preventing the TIP from gaining the traction to begin a full-blown insurgency in Xinjiang capable of anything beyond a few sporadic albeit deadly attacks may have forced the TIP and ETESA to become increasingly close in their respective “cheerleading” and “advocacy” roles.

The Islamic State

Despite the Islamic State’s overall expansion beyond Iraq and Syria in 2015, its direct threat to China is still low compared to other regions. The Islamic State announced it killed Chinese and Norwegian hostages in its magazine, Dabiq, in November 2015 after having first offered them for “sale.” But the focus of its propaganda in terms of killing hostages is still mostly on Westerners or, in some cases, their allies, such as the Japanese (SCMP, November 20, 2015). Moreover, closer to China’s borders, Southeast Asian jihadists are not yet sufficiently unified for the Islamic State to announce a Province in South East Asia, despite the bayat (pledges) to Islamic State leader Abubakar Al-Baghdadi from several Indonesian and Philippine factions since 2014. Nonetheless, in terms of logistics the Islamic State has funding and immigrant support networks in the Persian Gulf region, Malaysia, Hong Kong and even Japan that can facilitate its “infrastructure-building” in Southeast Asia ahead of a possible Province announcement in 2016 (isisstudygroup, October 15, 2015).

In addition, while the TIP has focused on appealing to recruits from the Chinese Hui and Chinese Kazakh minorities more than the Islamic State, the Islamic State does not appear to have any “local” traction within China. The Islamic State’s apparent hacking of the prestigious Tsinghua University’s website on January 18, 2016 highlights the possibility of the “Islamization” of anti-government sentiment in China, which could lead to the growth in support for the Islamic State in the same way it has in Europe. [3] Some elites, including dissidents from Muslim minority communities, may also have sympathies for the Islamic State for religious, ideological or political reasons (SCMP, January 18).

While Islamic State consolidation in Southeast Asia and a smattering of support for it from within China would certainly be of concern within Chinese borders, no prospective Southeast Asian provinces or domestic pro-Islamic State movement would comprise a national security threat to major Chinese diplomatic or trade interests for the foreseeable future - even if they could harm the human security of Chinese nationals. Rather, China is likely more concerned about the arrival of the Islamic State in Afghanistan via its Khorasan Province, which subsumed the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) and is intended to include Xinjiang and to subsume all of Central Asia. [4] Khorasan province does not appear to be more powerful than the Taliban or likely to control large tracts of territory in Afghanistan, but even fighting between Khorasan Province and the Taliban and Al-Qaeda or the Afghan government could further destabilize and complicate the economic and political situation in Afghanistan. This, in turn, would undermine Chinese strategic interests in Afghanistan and objectives of China’s New Silk Road and One Belt, One Road plan road at a time when China is considering elevating trade with Iran following the U.S. “Iran Deal” and its international profile with expected visits of President Xi to Iran and Saudi Arabia in 2016 (SCMP, January 15).

Conclusion

The threat of non-state actors to China such as the TIP, Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State can influence Chinese state policies, priorities and objectives. Thus, even though this article assesses that these threats mostly concern the human security rather than the national security of China and its citizens, they do indirectly affect China’s power projection, counter-terrorism calculus and foreign policy. These threats also have the potential to affect China’s level of engagement abroad, including its use of special forces overseas, new counter-terrorism laws, pressure relationships with allies (such as Pakistan to crack down on anti-Chinese militancy), tacit support to other governments’ foreign policies (such as Russia’s airstrikes in Syria), and its academic understandings and trainings in counterterrorism studies. Thus, the role of non-state actors is relevant not only in terms of security affairs but also in broader diplomacy, relationships, and engagement with China.

Jacob Zenn is a Fellow of Eurasian and African Affairs at The Jamestown Foundation. Mr. Zenn graduated as a Global Law Scholar from Georgetown Law in 2011 and the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) Nanjing Center for Chinese-American Studies in Nanjing, China in 2007.

Notes

1. Author’s Interview, ETESA supporter in USA, 2015

2. The start of the Russian bombing campaign in northwestern Syria in late 2015 appears, however, to have led to more than 30 TIP deaths and the destruction of TIP’s main headquarters as well as settlements where militants were living with their families.

3. Oliver Roy, “ International Terrorism: How can prevention and repression keep pace?” BKA Autumn Conference, November 18–19, 2015 life.eui.eu, November 18, 2015

4. The Taliban nonetheless reportedly killed or captured the IMU leader, Usman Ghazi, and killed other IMU members after Ghazi pledged to Al-Baghdadi such that the IMU may now be near-elimination.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I was told by an acquaintance that if I didn't vote for his party's candidates during an election, chances are I would be killed by a terrorist within my lifetime. I started uncontrollably laughing out loud. It's not that I discounted the possibility. I just saw a lot more other people and groups than Islamic terrorists that would more likely to kill me for no good reason including those this acquaintance would protect over my life. It's people like him that give power to terrorists. The anti-Assad forces are using ISIS to soften up Syria for them. No different from what's happening in China. So Beijing and anyone else should stop seeking recognition that Chinese are victims of terrorism. It's not like if China got that recognition, is anyone going to be helping out? Because Americans like to advertise their fears over terrorism is why Al Qaeda and ISIS sees them as their primary targets despite how much it's charged how China treats Muslims worse than Americans. How do you like that for irony? Russia is actually attacking ISIS interests and yet still not a bigger target than the West. Even though Al Qaeda and ISIS see China as their enemy, they're still outsourcing that work to groups that have a personal stake. They don't see it worthy enough to bother themselves. Just go by the propaganda how horribly China treats Muslims... and terrorists are still targeting the West more. And if you believe it or not that China is brutally cracking down on innocent Muslims while hunting for terrorists, Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the West aren't giving anything more than lip service in support for the "innocent."
 
I was told by an acquaintance that if I didn't vote for his party's candidates during an election, chances are I would be killed by a terrorist within my lifetime. I started uncontrollably laughing out loud. It's not that I discounted the possibility. I just saw a lot more other people and groups than Islamic terrorists that would more likely to kill me for no good reason including those this acquaintance would protect over my life. It's people like him that give power to terrorists. The anti-Assad forces are using ISIS to soften up Syria for them. No different from what's happening in China. So Beijing and anyone else should stop seeking recognition that Chinese are victims of terrorism. It's not like if China got that recognition, is anyone going to be helping out? Because Americans like to advertise their fears over terrorism is why Al Qaeda and ISIS sees them as their primary targets despite how much it's charged how China treats Muslims worse than Americans. How do you like that for irony? Russia is actually attacking ISIS interests and yet still not a bigger target than the West. Even though Al Qaeda and ISIS see China as their enemy, they're still outsourcing that work to groups that have a personal stake. They don't see it worthy enough to bother themselves. Just go by the propaganda how horribly China treats Muslims... and terrorists are still targeting the West more. And if you believe it or not that China is brutally cracking down on innocent Muslims while hunting for terrorists, Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the West aren't giving anything more than lip service in support for the "innocent."

It's still powerful and even more important to identify a terrorist as a terrorist and put forward your side of the story just so it is out there especially when others' sides of the story is inconsistent with yours. Expressing your views is different from seeking approval for them and is also different from trying to convince others of it, but it must be done as a facet of your existence especially when others' views are not the same as yours.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Things are interpreted differently depending on the culture. For instance recently a Dutch human rights activist was released from China after he made a confession on TV that he had "hurt the feelings of the Chinese people." That was scripted by the Chinese so it's not a real heart-felt confession. This is not the only time where Beijing has expressed what foreigners have done have "hurt the feelings of the Chinese people." Maybe the Chinese like that kind of talk but in the Western world that sounds like a cry-baby child. You see it in articles in the media mocking the use of such language by Beijing. So what's the purpose of using such language when the people you want to send the message to see it as coming from a overgrown 5,000 year old cry-baby child? If China is not going to give what the West's wants but still expects respect, then that's a spoiled overgrown 5,000 year old cry-baby child. The fact is if China wants anything form the US/West, it will have give something return. If Beijing is not willing to give anything, then don't expect anything at all. I'm from the camp that China shouldn't have to depend on the West for anything. That's why I'm against China essentially begging to be a part of the International Space Station. China is capable of having their own space station so why bother being a part of the ISS? The only thing it serves is superficial values that do nothing and when you fail to get it, it's an embarrassment. Again if Beijing is not willing to give anything to be a part of the ISS, then stop begging. Begging in West is a sign of weakness. The only thing that happens when Beijing begs or whines is embarrassment. Here's something else how the West sees it. When Beijing openly whines about they want, the less likely they're going to get what they want especially when you're not going to give anything in return. When you beg, you're giving the person you're begging to all the power. They know you want it so they'll ask for a lot more back because you want it so badly.

So what's the purpose of begging for recognition that Chinese are victims of terrorism? It has only a superficial value and does nothing to stop terrorism in China. When you beg, that gives the person you're begging to a sense of power. Why would they give that up by giving you what you want when they can continually feel like they're the ones in power? Notice all the calls for China to join the fight against ISIS? They need China so they don't lose their precious more valuable lives fighting a monstrous enemy they're afraid of. Do you see them begging to China to join the fight? That would be embarrassing to them to beg to the Chinese. So instead they use intimidation and spin to make it out this is for the world and not because they're afraid for themselves. They won't even give anything to China in exchange because they can manipulate it against China. Like how China buys oil from the Middle East thus they have a stake to lose. Or how they make ISIS out to be a threat to the world when they're really only a threat to the West. And somehow China is abandoning its obligation as a world citizen by not doing anything. No begging there. No giving anything to China to go fight ISIS for them. So does anyone see begging a value in the West? Especially Americans... they don't do that. Submission is weakness.
 
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B.I.B.

Captain
Begging in West is a sign of weakness. The only thing that happens when Beijing begs or whines is embarrassment. Here's something else how the West sees it. When Beijing openly whines about they want, the less likely they're going to get what they want especially when you're not going to give anything in return. When you beg, you're giving the person you're begging to all the power. They know you want it so they'll ask for a lot more back because you want it so badly.

O T.
I can recall top E U officials trooping off to Beijing to ask them to invest in their bailout fund after the 2009/10 financial meltdown.
Wisely the Chinese did not see much fun in bailing out insolvent countries and cash strapped banks and said no.
 
Things are interpreted differently depending on the culture. For instance recently a Dutch human rights activist was released from China after he made a confession on TV that he had "hurt the feelings of the Chinese people." That was scripted by the Chinese so it's not a real heart-felt confession. This is not the only time where Beijing has expressed what foreigners have done have "hurt the feelings of the Chinese people." Maybe the Chinese like that kind of talk but in the Western world that sounds like a cry-baby child. You see it in articles in the media mocking the use of such language by Beijing. So what's the purpose of using such language when the people you want to send the message to see it as coming from a overgrown 5,000 year old cry-baby child? If China is not going to give what the West's wants but still expects respect, then that's a spoiled overgrown 5,000 year old cry-baby child. The fact is if China wants anything form the US/West, it will have give something return. If Beijing is not willing to give anything, then don't expect anything at all. I'm from the camp that China shouldn't have to depend on the West for anything. That's why I'm against China essentially begging to be a part of the International Space Station. China is capable of having their own space station so why bother being a part of the ISS? The only thing it serves is superficial values that do nothing and when you fail to get it, it's an embarrassment. Again if Beijing is not willing to give anything to be a part of the ISS, then stop begging. Begging in West is a sign of weakness. The only thing that happens when Beijing begs or whines is embarrassment. Here's something else how the West sees it. When Beijing openly whines about they want, the less likely they're going to get what they want especially when you're not going to give anything in return. When you beg, you're giving the person you're begging to all the power. They know you want it so they'll ask for a lot more back because you want it so badly.

So what's the purpose of begging for recognition that Chinese are victims of terrorism? It has only a superficial value and does nothing to stop terrorism in China. When you beg, that gives the person you're begging to a sense of power. Why would they give that up by giving you what you want when they can continually feel like they're the ones in power? Notice all the calls for China to join the fight against ISIS? They need China so they don't lose their precious more valuable lives fighting a monstrous enemy they're afraid of. Do you see them begging to China to join the fight? That would be embarrassing to them to beg to the Chinese. So instead they use intimidation and spin to make it out this is for the world and not because they're afraid for themselves. They won't even give anything to China in exchange because they can manipulate it against China. Like how China buys oil from the Middle East thus they have a stake to lose. Or how they make ISIS out to be a threat to the world when they're really only a threat to the West. And somehow China is abandoning its obligation as a world citizen by not doing anything. No begging there. No giving anything to China to go fight ISIS for them. So does anyone see begging a value in the West? Especially Americans... they don't do that. Submission is weakness.

Frankly I don't see any signs of China going around begging nor whining nor any sense of embarassment, nor any reason for embarassment, when either there's no agreement or a deal doesn't work out.

It is necessary to match to a degree the loudness and persistence of others' views when your views are different and especially when others are trying to dismiss or undermine your views. And it is necessary as a matter of demonstrating your own faith in the validity of your views and to reinforce your views to attempt to get others' to acknowledge or agree to it, not for their approval and regardless of whether they end up acknowledging or agreeing.

Up to a point perception is reality, the only way for your perception to be out in the world is for you to express it in general as well as to others in particular especially when they are looking to dismiss or undermine your views or hold contradicting views.

There are also obvious practical benefits to getting others to have the same view as you or to co-operate with you on projects. Those practical benefits are often worth being open to or offering deals even if there may be protracted difficult negotiations, slim chance of agreement, or if it ends in disagreement. No shame, no embarassment in trying. Nor in claiming that the other side is being unfair, unreasonable, or straight up wrong.
 
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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Frankly I don't see any signs of China going around begging nor whining nor any sense of embarassment, nor any reason for embarassment, when either there's no agreement or a deal doesn't work out.

It is necessary to match to a degree the loudness and persistence of others' views when your views are different and especially when others are trying to dismiss or undermine your views. And it is necessary as a matter of demonstrating your own faith in the validity of your views and to reinforce your views to attempt to get others' to acknowledge or agree to it, not for their approval and regardless of whether they end up acknowledging or agreeing.

Up to a point perception is reality, the only way for your perception to be out in the world is for you to express it in general as well as to others in particular especially when they are looking to dismiss or undermine your views or hold contradicting views.

There are also obvious practical benefits to getting others to have the same view as you or to co-operate with you on projects. Those practical benefits are often worth being open to or offering deals even if there may be protracted difficult negotiations, slim chance of agreement, or if it ends in disagreement. No shame, no embarassment in trying. Nor in claiming that the other side is being unfair, unreasonable, or straight up wrong.

That's why it's cultural. Beijing doesn't know it's embarrassing itself because they think showing their cards works. It's just like a poker game and China doesn't know how to play. It's just like in another thread I posted about I read an article on the downfall and then rise of electric vehicles in China. How did China manage a turn-around so quick? It was because they didn't understand the concept of incentives for both manufacturers and buyers of electric vehicles. They had to learn from California's success to understand incentives. So far China's tactics hasn't worked. You may not think it's begging but Americans do.
 

port_08

Junior Member
Al Qaeda is a creation out of Sunni Wahhabism fundamentalism thinking. Who is the promoter of this thinking? Saudi Arabia. To balance out Sunni Wahhabism, you need to strengthen Shiitism and that is Iran. As long Saudi Arabia and Iran balance each others out, you will contain such promoters of Islamic terrorism in the middle east then spreading out to other countries. These are the 2 countries that use Religion as fundamental governance of their countries and use religion as a tool to spread influence. Before you have communism vs capitalism, but recent hot trend is religious terrorism for this new century.

Keep an eye out on Turkey. Brewing AKP Islamic party that still dream of Ottoman Caliphate. Secularism died there and Islamism is on the rise in Turkey. Now, Friday prayers and religious class and school on the rise being promoted by AKP so an entire generation grows up being religionist and this will cement AKP power decades to come.

Americans already started to switch side to Iran in order to balance out ISIL. Iran also hate ISIL and Americans are smart enough they can use Iran as a tool to put a lid on ISIL. That's get Saudi Arabia nervous of losing American support.

America is also backing the Kurds, the Kurds will be the new force in middle east to balance Islamism.

China need to see the trend, and back the correct horse. Best stay neutral and be friendly with everyone so as not to overly strengthen one group over the other.
 

port_08

Junior Member
Even though Al Qaeda and ISIS see China as their enemy, they're still outsourcing that work to groups that have a personal stake. They don't see it worthy enough to bother themselves. Just go by the propaganda how horribly China treats Muslims... and terrorists are still targeting the West more. And if you believe it or not that China is brutally cracking down on innocent Muslims while hunting for terrorists, Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the West aren't giving anything more than lip service in support for the "innocent."

The reason "terrorists" in terms like Al Qaeda, ISIL goes after the west (west means Americans and friends) because the West have real military power and still is the power that is meddling and have influencing in the middle east.

For China, it's the radicalised Uighurs that is a threat. China has no beef with Sunni Wahhabist or ISIL or the Turks or Hezbollah or Shiites and is not thru legacy of whatever Sykes Picot deal that divides Turkish Caliphate or cause any problem there. That's why those "terrorists" didn't bother with China.

Only those touristy terrorist like the radicalised Uighurs that visit middle east, to join the fight, either with the ISIL, the Nusra, the Al Qaedas group for training purposes and cannon fodders driving SVIEB that is a threat with their training to come back to China to practice what they have learn over there.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
The reason "terrorists" in terms like Al Qaeda, ISIL goes after the west (west means Americans and friends) because the West have real military power and still is the power that is meddling and have influencing in the middle east.

For China, it's the radicalised Uighurs that is a threat. China has no beef with Sunni Wahhabist or ISIL or the Turks or Hezbollah or Shiites and is not thru legacy of whatever Sykes Picot deal that divides Turkish Caliphate or cause any problem there. That's why those "terrorists" didn't bother with China.

Only those touristy terrorist like the radicalised Uighurs that visit middle east, to join the fight, either with the ISIL, the Nusra, the Al Qaedas group for training purposes and cannon fodders driving SVIEB that is a threat with their training to come back to China to practice what they have learn over there.

Best not to cause trouble at all. Whatever lousy "training" any few Uighurs got over there they are still no match for the PLA and local Uighurs who are against them.
 
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