Ukrainian War Developments

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Anlsvrthng

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By Dr. Evelyn N. Farkas

If Putin is not deterred from seizing another chunk of sovereign territory, he won’t stop there.


We will revert to spheres of global influence, unbridled military and economic competition, and ultimately, world war.
I still courious, will the USA consider Russian nuclear capable units in Cuba/Venezuela/Nicaragua, and practicing nuclear bomb run on Washington as disturbance of its sphere of infulence or not ?
 

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The United States has given Moscow its written response aimed at deterring a Russian invasion of Ukraine, Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced Wednesday.
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The United States has given Moscow its written response aimed at deterring a
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, Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced Wednesday.
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But some allies and experts are skeptical of how much emphasis should be put on this document from the US, as it is not expected to give room for negotiation on Russia's key demands, and there is concern that Moscow will use the US response as a pretext to say diplomacy has failed.


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I love the wording.

Russians started the discussion, required the document, but the USA try to pretend they is in charge of events.
 

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The United States has given Moscow its written response aimed at deterring a Russian invasion of Ukraine, Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced Wednesday.
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I love the wording.

Russians started the discussion, required the document, but the USA try to pretend they is in charge of events.

US & NATO have rejected all of Russia's demands in writing, it's Putin's turn to move.
 
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Overbom

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US & NATO have rejected all of Russia's demands in writing, it's Putin's turn to move.
Have they?



I will be amused if this ordeal end with some sort of NATO (hard/soft) split, thanks to the US and the UK.
There is quite a not of propaganda deployed these days.

I don't think we can draw any conclusions so soon. Probably need to wait a week or more to get a clearer picture of what has actually happened
 

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By Dr. Evelyn N. Farkas

If Putin is not deterred from seizing another chunk of sovereign territory, he won’t stop there.


President Vladimir Putin is more likely than not to invade Ukraine again in the coming weeks. As someone who helped President Barack Obama manage the U.S. and international response to Russia’s initial invasion of Ukraine in 2014, and our effort to keep Moscow from occupying the whole country into 2015, I am distressingly convinced of it.

Why? I see the scale and type of force
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by the Russian military, the
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issued by Putin and his officials, the warlike rhetoric that
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Russian airwaves, and the impatience with talks
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by his foreign minister. Add to that the likely anxiety produced in Putin by the demonstrations last week in Kazakhstan—and Moscow’s
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in tamping them down.
But the basic reason I think talks with Russia will fail is that the United States and its allies have nothing they can immediately offer Moscow in exchange for a de-escalation.

The United States must do more than issue ultimatums about sanctions and economic penalties. U.S. leaders should be marshalling an international coalition of the willing, readying military forces to deter Putin and, if necessary, prepare for war.
If Russia prevails again, we will remain stuck in a crisis not just over Ukraine but about the future of the global order far beyond that country’s borders.
Left unrestrained, Putin will move swiftly, grab some land, consolidate his gains, and set his sights on the next satellite state in his long game to restore all the pre-1991 borders: the sphere of geographical influence he deems was unjustly stripped from Great Russia.

The world will watch our response. Any subsequent acceptance of Russian gains will spell the beginning of the end of the international order. If Europe, NATO, and its allies in Asia and elsewhere fail to defend the foundational United Nations principles of
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and state sovereignty, no one will. Any appeasement will only beget future land grabs not only from Putin, but also from China in Taiwan and elsewhere. And if the world’s democracies lack the political will to stop them, the rules-based international order will collapse.
The United Nations will go the way of the League of Nations. We will revert to spheres of global influence, unbridled military and economic competition, and ultimately, world war.
Who cares what this useless person says. She's never seen a war she didn't like. She ought to have her sons and daughters sign up with the US military if she's that gung-ho and militaristic with her approach to any and every geopolitical issues her country has a hand in fomenting.
 

LesAdieux

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There is quite a not of propaganda deployed these days.

I don't think we can draw any conclusions so soon. Probably need to wait a week or more to get a clearer picture of what has actually happened

so what's up next? Biden says he doubts even Putin himself may not know it. I think NATO will put its expansion on hold as long as Putin is still around. they'll wait Putin out. I doubt we'll see any NATO roll back. invasion? I don't know.
 

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so what's up next? Biden says he doubts even Putin himself may not know it. I think NATO will put its expansion on hold as long as Putin is still around. they'll wait Putin out. I doubt we'll see any NATO roll back. invasion? I don't know.

One of the dumber aspects of this whole affair is NATO is not adding Ukraine any time soon. I doubt it will add Ukraine in my lifetime.
 
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