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A sunny day at Zhenjiang Naval Base.

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And finally some newly released old images.
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Looking more and more like China's version of the US naval base in San Diego as the PLAN continues to grow.
 

Tam

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Can someone identify the sensors and radars on the ship? Im gessing thats the Type 382 air radar on top.

Type 382 with a TACAN on top, like that in the Liaoning and Shandong.

Rear is a new radar, dual sided, one side has a different angle than the other. This replaces the ubiquitous Type 364 used in previous ships, which is used as a surface search radar. However, the angle on one side points to the sky more which suggests it also can be used as a air search radar. The rumor is that it is dual banded AESA under the label Type 383, one side an S-band with a 350km range and the other an X-band with a range under 120km.

The rest of the electronic equipment are like those seen with other ships.

Bar shaped IFF typical with 052D.

Typical Type 726 EW suite. 726-1 and 726-2 ESM units are paired on the mast. However, the 726-1 and 726-2 ESM units have new modifications from previous installations not seen before. 726-3 ECM and 726-4 DLS are located in the ship's hull.

A set of four small phase arrays installed under the 726-1 ESM in trapezoidal housings. Could this be part of the EW suite? IMO, this is the ship's CEC. There are similar installations on the Liaoning, Shandong and 055. The phase arrays should be rectangular but the housing is trapezoidal to decrease RCS with the slanted sides.

Has a pair of new navigation radar I have not seen before. Bet you its solid state.

Set of SATCOMs.

A pair of R2D2 shaped ESMs. We have seen those with other ships, typically with newer 052Ds and its been refitted on 052Cs.

A Type 349 radar in the rear. Typically a Type 349 is used as a CIWS radar but in this case, it is being used as landing radar. A pair of Type 349 is also used as landing radars on Liaoning and Shandong.
 
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sndef888

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A satellite image dated March 10. The flight deck of the second unit is being surfaced.

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I wonder when they're going to move the huangpu shipyards upriver, their locations are really prime territory.

On a side note, I really dislike those ugly Singapore style residential developments with identical buildings. They're like high rise versions of suburban hell.
 

Tam

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I wonder when they're going to move the huangpu shipyards upriver, their locations are really prime territory.

On a side note, I really dislike those ugly Singapore style residential developments with identical buildings. They're like high rise versions of suburban hell.

They are already extending HDZ shipyards at Changxing. We already have Phase 1. Phase 1 has already been active and is constructing ships to customers right and left. The extension adds Phase II to the project.

Selling the shipyards at Huangpu river is going to net a tremendous amount of Yuan, and given the rising real estate prices in the Shanghai metro region, the amount of cash you're going to get from auctioning and selling it isn't going to be matched by years of meager profits in shipbuilding. This is the sole shipyards left in the Shanghai proper; every shipyard that used to be located in Shanghai has already sold out their traditional locations and moved to an island somewhere.

Good too, because the river is crowded and is an accident waiting to happen. Imagine if you bought a brand new Tesla but the road straight out from your house is a busy Asian city traffic intersection, and the car also has to be parallel parked along the same streets. Even if the pilots are highly skilled, there is no doubt there is going to be significant mental and psychological stress to those navigating and piloting the ship. Not only is the river crowded with all sorts of ships and boats, it snakes continually. It says a lot that the captains, pilots and navigators of ships that transverse the Huangpu and the Yangtze, have great skills.

The bigger the ship goes, the less maneuverable it gets. When HDZ was building 053s, then 056s and 054As it probably wasn't that big of a problem. But when you start to get to build 071s then it becomes a bit of a problem and seeded that intent to move elsewhere. When the first 075 moved to its trials and floated down the river, there is probably a lot of anxious and stressed people at HDZ. Imagine if the ship collided with one of the many cargo ships, ferrys, and trawlers around the area. If they are planning to build 076 and larger LHDs, its going to be likely from the HDZ Changxing Phase I or II now.
 

davidau

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They are already extending HDZ shipyards at Changxing. We already have Phase 1. Phase 1 has already been active and is constructing ships to customers right and left. The extension adds Phase II to the project.

Selling the shipyards at Huangpu river is going to net a tremendous amount of Yuan, and given the rising real estate prices in the Shanghai metro region, the amount of cash you're going to get from auctioning and selling it isn't going to be matched by years of meager profits in shipbuilding. This is the sole shipyards left in the Shanghai proper; every shipyard that used to be located in Shanghai has already sold out their traditional locations and moved to an island somewhere.

Good too, because the river is crowded and is an accident waiting to happen. Imagine if you bought a brand new Tesla but the road straight out from your house is a busy Asian city traffic intersection, and the car also has to be parallel parked along the same streets. Even if the pilots are highly skilled, there is no doubt there is going to be significant mental and psychological stress to those navigating and piloting the ship. Not only is the river crowded with all sorts of ships and boats, it snakes continually. It says a lot that the captains, pilots and navigators of ships that transverse the Huangpu and the Yangtze, have great skills.

The bigger the ship goes, the less maneuverable it gets. When HDZ was building 053s, then 056s and 054As it probably wasn't that big of a problem. But when you start to get to build 071s then it becomes a bit of a problem and seeded that intent to move elsewhere. When the first 075 moved to its trials and floated down the river, there is probably a lot of anxious and stressed people at HDZ. Imagine if the ship collided with one of the many cargo ships, ferrys, and trawlers around the area. If they are planning to build 076 and larger LHDs, its going to be likely from the HDZ Changxing Phase I or II now.
I am pretty positive China shipbuilders have considered all these in their planning.
 

Tam

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I am pretty positive China shipbuilders have considered all these in their planning.

Yes. Do remember that it is the Shanghai local and the provincial government that wants to kick out the shipyards out of the city to make room for living space, reducing congestion and keeping housing prices under control. Jiangnan Shipyard used to be in the Shanghai city proper, started as Kiangnan Shipyard during the Qing Dynasty. So was Shanghai Waigaoquiao. Now both have moved to Changxing, and HDZ completes it three.
 
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