Type 075 LHD discussion


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what do you think about the size, were you a bit disappointed?

This question was not directed at me but I am a little disappointed by the size, but if it means more will be built and perhaps cheaper as it shares more components with the 071 then it's a fair tradeoff. The 075 and CV16/17 should meet China's mission needs within the 1st island chain well, which are the nearer term and more crucial needs anyways as compared to larger designs to take on high end military missions further afield. And these designs will also be fine for MOOTW anywhere.
 

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For about half a year now, fzgfzy has been saying that the 075 would displace 31,500 tons full, so I think the expectations of 075's size was already shaped around such a ship.

Looking at the ship here, and going by some new recent comments by pop3, it seems like the displacement is being adjusted a bit higher to 36,000 tons full.

Given my expectations were for a 31,500 ton ship, if the ship is 36,000 tons (which seems consistent with the overall size of the ship now that we have pictures of it in the water), that would actually be a pleasant surprise.
 

Bhurki

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For about half a year now, fzgfzy has been saying that the 075 would displace 31,500 tons full, so I think the expectations of 075's size was already shaped around such a ship.

Looking at the ship here, and going by some new recent comments by pop3, it seems like the displacement is being adjusted a bit higher to 36,000 tons full.

Given my expectations were for a 31,500 ton ship, if the ship is 36,000 tons (which seems consistent with the overall size of the ship now that we have pictures of it in the water), that would actually be a pleasant surprise.
The apparent disappointment isn't as much about actual size of the ship but about its comparison with the wasp.
It obviously doesn't measure upto the Wasp's dimensions but that's ok as long as its own operational objectives are met.
Also the largest aircraft operated from 075 and Wasp will differ a lot in size, i think the ratio of their sizes is reflected in the ships that'll house them.
 

Bltizo

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The apparent disappointment isn't as much about actual size of the ship but about its comparison with the wasp.
It obviously doesn't measure upto the Wasp's dimensions but that's ok as long as its own operational objectives are met.
Also the largest aircraft operated from 075 and Wasp will differ a lot in size, i think the ratio of their sizes is reflected in the ships that'll house them.

I don't really understand the focus on that comparison to be honest.

075 has almost the same waterline beam as the Wasp, with a shorter overall length. In terms of the aircraft it is capable of operating, is there really anyone arguing that 075 wont' be able to operate Ch-53 or V-22 sized aircraft? Is a difference of some 30m in flight deck length the basis of such an argument? I find it unconvincing.
(Not to mention the PLA doesn't have a Ch-53 or V-22 equivalent aircraft to begin with)

Otherwise the only "disappointment" I can comprehend is from people who are focused on bragging rights, because being some 4000+ tons lighter than a Wasp still would make the 075 one of the largest LHD classes in the world and one that is being built serially straight off the bat as well.
 

Biscuits

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I’m a bit disappointed, but realistically speaking, what can be expected?

The 075 doesn’t have to perform the same level of assaults as the Wasp would need to do. Neither does it need to handle fixed wing planes.

It’s role would be as a DDH like the Izumo, and in terms of that, it exceeds expectations.
 

Bltizo

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HD video of the launch.


Very nice. I can't help but wonder if there was any perspective from that side of the river that allowed a full head on view of the drydock but no one was allowed to take pictures or videos there because of the ability to get an axial view down the second hull.
 

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