Type 055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread


kickars

Junior Member
Are you sure superhornet is retired? You mean regular hornet?
I think what he meant is relative to F35C Super Hornet is an older model which would likely retired before the intended F35C.

Back to 055, I won’t be surprised to see small drones on the flight deck in the future. Does that mean China doesn’t care about conventional naval helicopters?

One thing we all agree on is that the whole indigenous Chinese helicopter industry is relatively behind compare to its ship building. Nobody is denying this fact. But, I for one wouldn’t mind to see China’s ship building is way ahead of its other industry. It has always been the case in recent Chinese history. Even Deng famously said in the 80s that “let few get rich first” despite China was officially a communist country at that time. If you can do it, you simply don’t wait for the others. That’s how rightly or wrongly China caught up and even surpass the west in certainly areas.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if China would go ahead with medium to large sized drone based naval helicopters earlier than the west. Just look at its quick adoption of cashless payment. The whole country barely got use to credit and debit cards, now it’s all cashless, even for the street beggars!
 

FactsPlease

Junior Member
Registered Member
We are just projecting, so doesn't matter I add one...
Fact is: even Z20 naval version is yet "cutting edge" (god knows what absolute definition that is), it won't be the first time China got platform+weapon combination development timeline conflict: anti-sub torpedo for 091 and 092, 2000km-range JL1 for 092 NEVER qualified for strategic deterence, ASM missile YJ(8) for Q5, VLS for 054 (first two), HHQ-61 missile for 053(K) frigates. Want me to continue?
The point is: NO need to discredit PLAN for any such case. Admit it that helo is part of "to be confirmed". That's all.
 

Pika

Junior Member
Registered Member
Are you sure superhornet is retired? You mean regular hornet?
Huh don't know why I said phase out soon. The SuperHornet will fly for at least another decade or two complimenting the Lightning. But I will note the Navy plans to only order about 120 Super Hornets to replace legacy Hornets (18C and 18Ds).

After that no one knows if that's it for the F/A-18 lines. Boeing had planned to shut down production and then this order came in.

Back to topic though. I meant the Hornets--which will retire much early, maybe a decade or so--was the first craft being introduced to the new carrier because it was still in service for the Navy.
 

williamhou

Junior Member
I think what he meant is relative to F35C Super Hornet is an older model which would likely retired before the intended F35C.

Back to 055, I won’t be surprised to see small drones on the flight deck in the future. Does that mean China doesn’t care about conventional naval helicopters?

One thing we all agree on is that the whole indigenous Chinese helicopter industry is relatively behind compare to its ship building. Nobody is denying this fact. But, I for one wouldn’t mind to see China’s ship building is way ahead of its other industry. It has always been the case in recent Chinese history. Even Deng famously said in the 80s that “let few get rich first” despite China was officially a communist country at that time. If you can do it, you simply don’t wait for the others. That’s how rightly or wrongly China caught up and even surpass the west in certainly areas.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if China would go ahead with medium to large sized drone based naval helicopters earlier than the west. Just look at its quick adoption of cashless payment. The whole country barely got use to credit and debit cards, now it’s all cashless, even for the street beggars!

And only the few got rich. One of the key factors mobile payment has been growing so quickly is that the Chinese are still poor with huge income disparities, despite the country being the 2nd largest economy. Most small business owners still can not afford to install machines for credit and debit cards and pay for VISA/MasterCard/American Express/UnionPay commissions for using them. The mobile payments are commission free, and cost nothing if you already have a smart phone. And that is precisely the reason street beggars use it as well, it's free.
 

by78

Brigadier
Oh dear

just as expected

totally spoilt, a billion warship carrying a Russian low tech helicopter

what exactly is wrong with Chinese when it comes to naval helicopter they are so important

you can lose a warship if you don’t have the right helo

and the copy hawk isn’t exactly cutting edge either

LPD without LCAC again ?
And only the few got rich. One of the key factors mobile payment has been growing so quickly is that the Chinese are still poor with huge income disparities, despite the country being the 2nd largest economy. Most small business owners still can not afford to install machines for credit and debit cards and pay for VISA/MasterCard/American Express/UnionPay commissions for using them. The mobile payments are commission free, and cost nothing if you already have a smart phone. And that is precisely the reason street beggars use it as well, it's free.
@asif iqbal, thank you for derailing discussions yet again with your obsessive-compulsive observations that really don't add much value.
 

Tam

Major
Registered Member
From what I can see there are two Type 055 outside of the fitting pool, which likely means trials. There is a 052DL on the left, probably on trials, and a 052D, not sure if its a brand new 052DL or a 052D that has gone into maintenance, as that spot of the pier is usually spotted for purposes like this.
 

asif iqbal

Brigadier
Omg also the 9 x LCAC are STILL SITTING where they have always sat for 24 months !!!!

what a absolute scandal and there is still some uneducated people who claim the LCAC is fixed ? REALLY???

why don’t they just use them for target practice and sink them

I guess they are also the same people who claim the earth is flat

this is beyond shocking I have no words

photo says it all
 

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