Type 055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread


Biscuits

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If the Chinese leadership is not outright assuming that their forces are being monitored in almost real time they are doing something very wrong.
Satellites have some lag time. Not much, but some. Still makes most of them not that relevant for moving targets, best you can do is draw a 500km x 500km square on the map from where you saw the CVBG 1 day ago.
 

Bhurki

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thanks to y8s for bringing it to my attention and via MDC軍武狂人夢

JN 18th September, confirming the 5th 055 launched and 8th 055 in construction (both overall; JN number 3 and 4 respectively)

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Jane's says 12th september
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Janes: China launches fifth Type 055 destroyer for PLAN

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The fifth Type 055 (Renhai-class) destroyer on order for the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has been launched at the Jiangnan Changxingdao shipyard near Shanghai.

Work is now continuing in the fitting-out basin, as shown in commercial satellite imagery captured on 18 September.

The launch was not covered by official Chinese media but the satellite imagery shows that it occurred between 7 and 18 September, with some Chinese social media sites claiming that it took place on 12 September.

Displacing more than 10,000 tonnes, the Type 055 is the largest destroyer built for the PLAN. Its vertical launch system (VLS) comprises 112 cells from which surface-to-air, anti-ship, anti-submarine, and land-attack missiles can be launched.
 

Bltizo

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Jane's says 12th september
I'm saying the picture was taken on the 18th September, which the article says as well, and is also present on the picture in two locations.

Come on, what else could my 18th September have referred to...

Janes: China launches fifth Type 055 destroyer for PLAN

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The fifth Type 055 (Renhai-class) destroyer on order for the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has been launched at the Jiangnan Changxingdao shipyard near Shanghai.

Work is now continuing in the fitting-out basin, as shown in commercial satellite imagery captured on 18 September.
 

lunlunqq

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thanks to y8s for bringing it to my attention and via MDC軍武狂人夢

JN 18th September, confirming the 5th 055 launched and 8th 055 in construction (both overall; JN number 3 and 4 respectively)

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What are those strange things that were marked with red dots in the picture? Are they unicorns? Fancy seeing these mystical creatures there.
 

Bltizo

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What are those strange things that were marked with red dots in the picture? Are they unicorns? Fancy seeing these mystical creatures there.
I'm not sure if you're deliberately being facetious or not, but they're meant to signify 726 LCACs as shown obviously by the key in the bottom left corner.

If there's something so obvious and blatant on a picture like strange dots it's usually a good idea to closely look at the picture to see if there's an associated explanation for it.
 

Pika

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If the Chinese leadership is not outright assuming that their forces are being monitored in almost real time they are doing something very wrong.
Interesting. I wonder if US spy satellites are constantly watching most Chinese vessels, live tracking some of them in case something happens and they need to know where they are.
 

Peter2018

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Interesting. I wonder if US spy satellites are constantly watching most Chinese vessels, live tracking some of them in case something happens and they need to know where they are.
Is it possible to shoot those spy satellites? Does the Chinese track ships of foreign enemies?
 

taxiya

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@PeoplesPoster, only GEO sat can track in real time but with useless resolution as of today. MEO (like Keyhole at 250km) and below can track in near real time if there are enough number (a constellation) to increase the revisit frequency. So far no country has deployed such system yet, but China is known to be deploying such system with a time gap small enough to be regarded as real time. This system has been discussed in this forum.

@Pika, maybe not constantly, there is no such capability by anybody yet. Live tracking of some important target for 20 minutes when they ALREADY know where the target is WITHIN a boxy area? I think US is already doing that for decades by Keyhole.

@Peter2018, one does not need to physically shoot the spy sat. Just use laser to dazzle the optical sensor or focused radar beam to jam the sat would do the job. US has complained about China laser dazzling their sat some years ago.
 

Neutral Zone

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Is it possible to shoot those spy satellites? Does the Chinese track ships of foreign enemies?
Yes and yes.

But shooting down another country’s satellite would be seen as a hostile act, at the very least the US would retaliate by shooting down Chinese satellites. “Freedom of Space” as it’s known has been tacitly recognised since the first spysats went up in the early 1960’s. While they mean that another country can see what you’re up to, you can also keep a close watch on them and make a Pearl Harbour style sneak attack impossible. So the major powers are content to put up with the nuisance because overall it helps to reduce tensions.
 

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