Type 054B/next generation FFG thread


Tam

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Making a call that the ship will have a brand new 100mm gun is very bold, to say the least. He must be confident about this information.

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Will this be a new gun standard for the PLAN that might appear in new destroyers?
 

Kejora

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True DP capability?
5-inchers are more on the anti-surface/gunfire support side of things, 3" is essentially a self-defense asset.
On the other hand US' Constellation class is moving to 57mm cannon. Also if this 100mm cannon has higher recoil than 76mm does that mean type 054b's hull might be bigger than 054a? It will be great if PLAN has a 6000-7000ton class frigate.
 
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blindsight

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True DP capability?
5-inchers are more on the anti-surface/gunfire support side of things, 3" is essentially a self-defense asset.
I don't think anybody really needs a DP gun that actually aren't good at either job. If the 054B can grow up to 6000mt, maybe they should go for the 130mm.
 

Tam

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On the other hand US' Constellation class is moving to 57mm cannon. Also if this 100mm cannon has higher recoil than 76mm does that mean type 054b's hull might be bigger than 054a? It will be great if PLAN has a 6000-7000ton class frigate.

Do remember that the Type 054 uses the 100mm Type 210 gun, which it still keeps after the refit. So this ship hull is intended for the 100mm gun in the first place.
 

sndef888

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76mm feels like it would be less troublesome and more versatile than 100mm, seeing as it is much lighter and can even be used as a CIWS

Maybe they decided they need the land attack power? For a scenario in Taiwan/Korea/Japan maybe
 

Gloire_bb

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I don't think anybody really needs a DP gun that actually aren't good at either job. If the 054B can grow up to 6000mt, maybe they should go for the 130mm.
For example, Russian A-190.01 has >80 RPM with 15.6kg shells, with ~twice the effective danger zone of the 76mm gun against both air and surface targets.
Unless you're specifically choosing gunfire support and surface targets - it may very well be the better of both worlds.
 

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