Type 054/A FFG Thread II


xyqq

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568 Hengyang firing a chaff/flare rocket. In the distance are three ships: LPD-987 Wuzhishan, AOE-967 Chaganhu, and another one either DDG-175 Yinchuan or electronic surveillance ship 857 Tianshuxing. The flotilla traveled more than 8,000 nautical miles in one month.

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A Z-9C helicopter just took off:

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Approaching at sunset:

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Bow view at dawn:

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Tam

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We already noticed that before. Months ago. There is a similar array on the last batch of Type 054A, but located differently under the Type 364 radar.

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The array is present not just on 529, but also in 530. I like to see pictures of the other two ships of the first batch 054A. I think the array is experimental when installed on the 529 and 530, with the definitive version installed installed on the final batch 054A like 601 above. I suspect it is a new ESM focused on long range, long frequency. The elements are similar to the barbecue stick pole on top of the 055. Change of position from under the Type 382 to the Type 364 may be because the first position is unsatisfactory and affected by interference.


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sndef888

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I saw this on the internet earlier this week referring to the new build of Frigates for the PLAN........don't know if there is any truth in it, but it does raise one or two interesting aspects.

"Back in 2018 it was rumoured that 054B was planned, but in 2019, another rumour came out that the 054B has been delayed a bit due to its one crucial handicap, that is, its speed is too slow to keep up with the carrier fleet. And then in 2020 there was a conflicting rumour that another batch of 054 was going to be built, some say it would be the same 054A but others claimed it would be the newer version. Then it was said that the order was for 054A. Then the news broke, back in December 2020, that the new, much higher efficient version of vessel propulsion engine has been developed and tested. Then on January, another rumour emerged which says that China is on the process to convert its surface fleet to pump jet, instead of propeller, using electrical pumps, instead of the old piston and crankshaft version. It was rumoured that the 3rd 075 vessel was built as the first trial, using this concept, then followed by the new batch of 054 would be 054Bs, based on the same technology, which, reportedly, can travel much faster and quieter than ever before. It was also rumoured that using this new design, more rooms would be made available inside the vessel, that would mean more places for missiles and other compartments".
Wait, so the rumor is that the 054 under construction right now use pump jets?
 

Bltizo

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And how confident are we that all four 054APs were contracted to the one shipyard? Do we have visual confirmation of four 054AP hulls from Hudong-Zhonghua?

I would say, very confident.
As an export agreement, some details of the contract was provided to international defense media quite openly -- including which shipyard would build them -- and no PLA watchers of note have suggested otherwise either.

054AP hull 1 launched August 2020, hull 2 launched January this year (at the same time as 075 hull 3).

As for 054AP hulls 3 and 4 -- we have aerial pics showing modules for two 054A pattern hulls on the side of the drydock when 075 hull 3 + 054AP hull 2 was launched this year. I recall (but can't track down) other pictures taken from the air showing those modules have been started to be assembled in drydock.
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While the identity of those two hulls have yet to be confirmed, I would not be surprised if at least one of them -- if not both -- were for 054AP. We will know soon enough in time.


Furthermore, it is also generally accepted that the PLAN has ordered another 20 054A frigates (whether they may see some improvements or not compared to the first 30, who knows) -- and the first of those 20 restarts, is the one identified at HP.

There have also been some indications that of the 20 054A restarts, HP will get 12 of them while HD gets 8 -- so that both technically get "12" 054A frigates on top of the 30 that were originally built (HD adding the four 054APs to their 8 restarts). But we will see.



In any case, it would very much be a significant surprise if the 054A being built at HP right now ended up being an 054AP, because it is confirmed the four 054APs will be built at HD.
 

Tam

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That should be 054A/P #2, #3, and #4 in that picture there. 054A/P #1 was built in the dockyard across the river, which cannot be seen in this picture, and would be moored on the other side of the river. This dock was also used to pound out 056s before.

#3 and #4 of the A/P will be built in this drydock where the 075 was built.

If you start spotting a followup 054A hull on the dockyard across the river, that might likely be HD's first 054A of the new PLAN batch. This dock could be capable of building two 054A at the same time.
 

Bltizo

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That should be 054A/P #2, #3, and #4 in that picture there. 054A/P #1 was built in the dockyard across the river, which cannot be seen in this picture, and would be moored on the other side of the river. This dock was also used to pound out 056s before.

#3 and #4 of the A/P will be built in this drydock where the 075 was built.

That's... what I said lol, just so there's no confusion.

054AP unit 1 was launched august 2020, unit 2 was launched January this year with the launch of 075 unit 3 (which is depicted in that photo in my previous post). And seen in that same pictures are modules for two further 054A pattern ships that are very likely to be 054AP units 3 and 4.
 

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