Type 054/A FFG Thread II


LCR34

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Tam

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Assuming that image indeed shows what people think it shows - well that was quick. 054 ship being at that stage of completion means that the order for new vessels must've been made at least 2 to, possibly, 3 years ago. But we've learned of the additional 054 ships being ordered/planned only weeks ago.

That image should be new. There is another image and the second image shows that sharing the same shed, on the adjacent space, an existing 054A getting overhauled, possibly being upgraded, with the number 573. Pictures of 054A getting their overhauls starting recently, or at least from 2019, so this isn't an old pic from Huangpu Shipyard with 054A coming out of the shed which there is so many in the past during the golden age of their production.

If the hull is already at this stage, I concur the that the decision to make this ship was probably a few years ago. Maybe the batch ordered was small, probably 4 to 5, like the last batch, and this order has been expanded to another 20.
 

Tam

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Ah how i missed the Type 022 Hubei. PLAN should have continued developing fast catamarans and come out with something like the ROCN Tuo Chiang.

They must have, but the proposal gets rejected and shows up as an export proposal for defense expo. Note the trimaran frigate on the back ground. Fair to say they tried but the brass didn't bite.

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Tam

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Ah how i missed the Type 022 Hubei. PLAN should have continued developing fast catamarans and come out with something like the ROCN Tuo Chiang.

Getting a little out of topic now, the Houbei in the picture is worth following up in the future to see if there are any upgrades to it.
 

LCR34

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They must have, but the proposal gets rejected and shows up as an export proposal for defense expo. Note the trimaran frigate on the back ground. Fair to say they tried but the brass didn't bite.

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I didnt see any trimaran shipI didnt see any missile boat thread here so....
 

Gloire_bb

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Ah how i missed the Type 022 Hubei. PLAN should have continued developing fast catamarans and come out with something like the ROCN Tuo Chiang.
1, I've seen opinion that even for ROCN itself this is just as much about sunk costs as it is about capabilities at this point.

2, For modern PLAN missions and needs, 056A is a superior package. ROCN vessels are impressively armed(as are many other short ranged combatants), but they're -mission and -opponent specific.

3, 022s themselves are numerous, active and in service. That's quite enough for a niche capability, stuck in-between coastal missiles, maritime aviation and light frigates.
 

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Type 054A/P No.2

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Bltizo

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Seems like the different radar on 054A/P is confirmed (among some other sensor differences that seem apparent here).

I suppose question will be if the successive 20 054A production restarts for PLAN will also see this improvement as previously floated.
 
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Deino

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Seems like the different radar on 054A/P is confirmed (among some other sensor differences that seem apparent here).

I suppose question will be if the successive 20 054A production restarts for PLAN will also see this improvement as previously floated.

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Here a new image of the first Pakistan Navy’s Type 054AP but - I'm indeed not a naval guy - can anyone identify the equipment - esp. the radar - installed? It looks different to those on PLAN Type 054As?!


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