Type 054/A FFG Thread II

[asif iqbal]

a very good FFG

this programme proved to be very successful

it also helped China secure the export orders

time to move onto the Type 052B

 

[Tetrach]

After the overhaul, none at all.

But there were changes to the ship before the overhaul was made. The first is a skirt, or an set of arrays underneath the Type 382 search radar. I am not sure what it is, I got some suspects. The second is a much more common retrofit that's being added and spreading to the fleet, and that is a flat panel SATCOM (datalink?) placed on top of hanger that uses a small phase array. Some 054A has two of these on each side on top of the hanger, but with 529, one was placed on the center spine on top of the hanger.

A long time ago you shared a good picture of the new array, can you send it again ?

 

[Tetrach]

A long time ago you shared a good picture of the new array, can you send it again ?

Found it.


Look closely at the covers below the arrays. They look extremely similar if not the same as the module we can find below the CDF system of the Type 52D, at the end of the mast.


Now for it's purpose I think it's part of the CDF. Because type 52C had two adock antennas, then only one was kept for type 52D and this module came. Now we have the similar covers on the type 54A..

 

[by78]

Re-posting some lost images. Reloading the VLS magazine.

 

[Tam]

Found it.

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Look closely at the covers below the arrays. They look extremely similar if not the same as the module we can find below the CDF system of the Type 52D, at the end of the mast.
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Now for it's purpose I think it's part of the CDF. Because type 52C had two adock antennas, then only one was kept for type 52D and this module came. Now we have the similar covers on the type 54A..

They look like VHF folded dipoles to me with weather protection. Aside from 529, it appears with another first batch 054A with the 3rd Destroyer Division, possibly 530.

These antennas were not part of the overhaul but not with the ship in her original form. They were fitted to the ship far after she was already in service, possibly as a test prototype. Whatever the results the PLAN is not satisfied with their location, possibly due to interference, so they were transferred somewhere else. The last four Type 054A featured the arrays but they are now located on the aft mast around the Type 364 radar.

 

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Re-posting some lost images. Reloading the VLS magazine.

Any know the dimensional measurement of single VLS cell of Type-54A .... ???

 

[Tam]

Any know the dimensional measurement of single VLS cell of Type-54A .... ???

That's a question everyone asks and no one knows for certain.

 

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That's a question everyone asks and no one knows for certain.

but any estimated figures of height and width .... ???

anyone .....??

 

[Tam]

but any estimated figures of height and width .... ???

anyone .....??

Likely similar dimensions to a Mk.41 cell, given that HQ-16 missile is similar size to a Standard, but the depth cannot be deep, not more than 6 meters. Given that the the H/AJK-16 VLS block managed to fit inside a Shtil missile cache, when the Project 956 Sovremenny gets refitted with this VLS, I think the depth might be around 5.5 meters. The best equivalent to it would be the Self Defense version of the Mk.41 that is limited to 5.3 meters, and can only use Standards, ESSM, maybe ASROCs but not cruise missiles.

 

[snake65]

Likely similar dimensions to a Mk.41 cell, given that HQ-16 missile is similar size to a Standard, but the depth cannot be deep, not more than 6 meters. Given that the the H/AJK-16 VLS block managed to fit inside a Shtil missile cache, when the Project 956 Sovremenny gets refitted with this VLS, I think the depth might be around 5.5 meters. The best equivalent to it would be the Self Defense version of the Mk.41 that is limited to 5.3 meters, and can only use Standards, ESSM, maybe ASROCs but not cruise missiles.

I don't thing Pr.956 is indicative in this case, it has 5.2x5.2x7.4 magazine.