Type 054/A FFG Thread II


Tam

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Just like @asif iqbal has said many times we have never seen any pictures of the Chinese using their hovercraft with mechanized forces. The pictures usually show either empty hovercraft, or at best now, we have a picture of one carrying infantry.
This with the added fact most of them were at the shipyard for years suggest some kind of issue and I suspect it is the turbine engines lacking power or endurance or both. It is fairly well know the Type 726 LCAC had some sort of issue but it was never made open. Supposedly this should have been fixed in the Type 726A LCAC but AFAIK they still don't have enough to equip all the Type 071 LPDs.

Same deal with PLA helicopters most are smaller types and most don't have ASW capability. Only now with the Z-20 variants entering the scene should this change for the destroyers, for the frigates they'll need to produce more light helicopters with ASW capability, but it could still take years for them to produce enough ASW capable helicopters to equip all the frigates.
Naval Z-9s can carry two torpedos.

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Also the frigates have lower top speed than other modern frigates which have at least one turbine engine so they can reach 30 knots and only recently have they introduced variable depth sonar and towed sonar with Type 054A+.
The first 16 ships have Type 206 or H/SJG-206 towed array sonar, all passive, while the rest of the ships have Type 311 or H/SJG-311 towed active and passive sonar.

Iver Huitfeldt class of frigate is considered to be one of the top battle frigates in the world, and is all diesel powered. Its platform is the basis for the Royal Navy's new Type 31 frigate class.
 

Tam

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If that is 529 then, what is the ship is to the left of the picture below? Ignore the refitted 136 for a moment. The ship on the left has the skirts below the main radar and has the uncut sweep along its bow typical of the first four 054A. This can mean that another early 054A has acquired this skirt like 'upgrade'.


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Tracking the 054A ship besides Destroyer 136, and that should be pennant 530 Xuzhou, which is the second Type 054A ever made and is another oldie like 529. Both 529 and 530 are assigned with the 3rd Destroyer Division.
 

Tam

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Beautiful shots. The lights on 529 isn't just for pretty, it helps boats and ships in the river spot her and so they don't get colliding into her at night.
 

Tam

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What did they change on the 529?
After the overhaul, none at all.

But there were changes to the ship before the overhaul was made. The first is a skirt, or an set of arrays underneath the Type 382 search radar. I am not sure what it is, I got some suspects. The second is a much more common retrofit that's being added and spreading to the fleet, and that is a flat panel SATCOM (datalink?) placed on top of hanger that uses a small phase array. Some 054A has two of these on each side on top of the hanger, but with 529, one was placed on the center spine on top of the hanger.
 

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