Type 054/A FFG Thread II


Tam

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There was this screen capture from CCTV9, but I was never able to locate the video. Not sure if it's an old proposal or still current, or whether it's a successor to 054/A or merely a MLU. I suppose the quickest way to upgrade 054/A is to leave the hull intact and update only the sensors, electronics, and weapons.


I believe this one might be the 054A/P instead. The radar and the missiles are the give away.

Does not distract from the idea that the MLU upgrade for the 054A may only involve changing existing radars---namely with rotating AESAs---electronics and weapons, and they won't do anything extensive like build an integrated mast with fixed AESAs.
 

MrCrazyBoyRavi

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Its weird why does China accomodate so few VLS cells in its frigate? New russian Gorskov class frigate have more VLS cells than type 52D destroyer. Is it cost saving mechanism or design issue?
 

Bltizo

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Its weird why does China accomodate so few VLS cells in its frigate? New russian Gorskov class frigate have more VLS cells than type 52D destroyer. Is it cost saving mechanism or design issue?
... Gorshkov class has 32 Redut VLS for SAMs and 16 UKSK VLS for missiles -- that's 48 VLS total.
The improved Gorshkov will supposedly have the same number of Redut cells but 24 UKSK cells -- that is 56 VLS total.

052D has 64 UVLS total.

054A has 32 VLS cells and 8 slant launch AShMs.

Normal Gorshkov class displaces 5400 tons full.
054A displaces 4000 tons full.


The number of VLS cells in Chinese surface combatants is appropriate and normal, and not "weird".
 

MrCrazyBoyRavi

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... Gorshkov class has 32 Redut VLS for SAMs and 16 UKSK VLS for missiles -- that's 48 VLS total.
The improved Gorshkov will supposedly have the same number of Redut cells but 24 UKSK cells -- that is 56 VLS total.

052D has 64 UVLS total.

054A has 32 VLS cells and 8 slant launch AShMs.

Normal Gorshkov class displaces 5400 tons full.
054A displaces 4000 tons full.


The number of VLS cells in Chinese surface combatants is appropriate and normal, and not "weird".
Thanks for clarification.
 

Gloire_bb

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Its weird why does China accomodate so few VLS cells in its frigate?
Number of VLS cells isn't a (...) measuring game. It's math, math of intended purpose of the warship against its lifetime cost.

32 cells is essentially a world standard for a medium-sized, multipurpose warship. +don't forget about ASCM canisters.
Even fewer numbers are reasonable for ships with effective quad-packed missiles, not in the least due to fast/stealthy sea skimmers.
 

FactsPlease

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I'm more keen to learn the status of quad-packed development, of PLAN. Wonder anyone can provide an update, please. From their test ship?
 

Tetrach

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I'm more keen to learn the status of quad-packed development, of PLAN. Wonder anyone can provide an update, please. From their test ship?
There's a missile in development, "double-5", 50km at mach 5, said to be quadpacking.

People have been saying that dk-10 and FM-300 would be quadpacked, but at the end these missiles are probably never going to be navalized.

Beside this, nothing.
 

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