Type 054/A FFG Thread II


Jura

General
It actually matters a great deal.

In a competition between:

a) large numbers of cheap incoming anti-ship missiles
versus
B) a few expensive defensive SAMs

Guess who is going to be the winner?
LOL
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in real world, the USN would sail with an assortment of missiles needed to accomplish the mission (irrespective of what's the cost of said missiles),

or the USN would keep off = wouldn't sail into an area where it could meet a hail of your "cheap incoming anti-ship missiles"

(the US Military has aerial assets, too, you know)
 

ougoah

Senior Member
Registered Member
Both perspectives are valid. In a situation where the two forces are perfect equals (not even remotely true when comparing China and USA at the moment), then if attrition is the game, those with the cheaper attacking missiles will win against defensive because the intercepting side runs out of defending missiles first. But reality is nothing like that and the US has far more access to economic resources in the real world and can justify a great premium to defend a vessel even if they need to venture into masses of inexpensive anti-ship missiles to complete a mission. The real factor here is the total number of SMx missiles onboard vs total number of anti-shippers. Then add other platforms to complicate further.
 

AndrewS

Captain
Registered Member
Both perspectives are valid. In a situation where the two forces are perfect equals (not even remotely true when comparing China and USA at the moment), then if attrition is the game, those with the cheaper attacking missiles will win against defensive because the intercepting side runs out of defending missiles first. But reality is nothing like that and the US has far more access to economic resources in the real world and can justify a great premium to defend a vessel even if they need to venture into masses of inexpensive anti-ship missiles to complete a mission. The real factor here is the total number of SMx missiles onboard vs total number of anti-shippers. Then add other platforms to complicate further.
The context of the discussion is the future Type-54B design, which would likely be a 10 year construction programme at a minimum.

Yes, the US currently has a large advantage in terms of fleet size and defensive resources.

That just reinforces the point that the Chinese Navy has to be much more focused on spending where it has the most cost-benefit
 

Lethe

Senior Member
Will be interesting to see if the 054s come out of their refit with the 32-cell H/AJK-16 VLS and also what radar is fitted...

The number of type 054B will probably double that of type 054A, in this hostile environment.
I'd be happy with 32 for a total of 64 modern oceangoing frigates.
 

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