Type 052C/052D Class Destroyers


Tam

Major
Registered Member
This picture is interesting. I can only see three 052D left in Dalian, along with three 055. The fourth 055 is in another part of the bay moored near the Shandong and a fourth 052D should be across the other bay in another dry dock getting its sonar fitted. I would assume that 121 Qiqihar is no longer there, and another 052D is moored where Qiqihar used to be. The last four remaining 052D in Dalian would be 163, 123, 124, and 125.

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asif iqbal

Brigadier
DL looks quiter, those 2 units will be launched this year they haven't been floated forward either

the forward dock is empty and the side quay is also empty no new super structures

DL should gear up for 004
 

Tam

Major
Registered Member
There are only three destroyers left still in construction, one 052DL in Jiangnan and two (055 and 052DL) in Dalian. Practically every destroyer is now either fitting, on trials or waiting to be picked up.
 

plawolf

Brigadier
Looks like a big conscious shift in focus to get ships to the fleets ASAP instead of optimising scheduling as was previously the case (you would normally want to stagger construction so you don’t have a lot of ships all entering service in a short time frame as that would not be efficient for the shipyard or naval academies supplying the new manpower for those ships).

I think this is an indirect sign of just how seriously Beijing is taking the threat of actual war with the US right now.

If a war doesn’t break out, I think we will see a big and distinct break in the trendline of PLAN warship construction and commissioning next year, when the impact of these production schedule changes start to filter through into fewer new built hulls appearing.
 

Tam

Major
Registered Member
Looks like a big conscious shift in focus to get ships to the fleets ASAP instead of optimising scheduling as was previously the case (you would normally want to stagger construction so you don’t have a lot of ships all entering service in a short time frame as that would not be efficient for the shipyard or naval academies supplying the new manpower for those ships).

I think this is an indirect sign of just how seriously Beijing is taking the threat of actual war with the US right now.

If a war doesn’t break out, I think we will see a big and distinct break in the trendline of PLAN warship construction and commissioning next year, when the impact of these production schedule changes start to filter through into fewer new built hulls appearing.
There is only one left 056A being fitted in HDZ when there used to be four to five. I have not seen the last 071 in HDZ lately either.
 

Bhurki

Junior Member
Registered Member
I think we will see a big and distinct break in the trendline of PLAN warship construction and commissioning next year, when the impact of these production schedule changes start to filter through into fewer new built hulls appearing.
No need to wait, the effects are already visible today.
10 destroyers were launched last year (8 052d + 2 055)
No more than 3 will be launched this year (1 052d +2 055)
That means you'll see a massive slump after 2021-22 commissioning of these ships.
 

latenlazy

Colonel
Looks like a big conscious shift in focus to get ships to the fleets ASAP instead of optimising scheduling as was previously the case (you would normally want to stagger construction so you don’t have a lot of ships all entering service in a short time frame as that would not be efficient for the shipyard or naval academies supplying the new manpower for those ships).

I think this is an indirect sign of just how seriously Beijing is taking the threat of actual war with the US right now.

If a war doesn’t break out, I think we will see a big and distinct break in the trendline of PLAN warship construction and commissioning next year, when the impact of these production schedule changes start to filter through into fewer new built hulls appearing.
I don’t think the pace is really abating. We might get a short term slump as the yards regroup and start laying down new hulls, but my guess is planners have assumed these tensions aren’t going away just to be on the safe side, which means they’ll be committing to a much more rapid force build up as a hedge position. The planned fleet size might have grown a lot too, in response to their perceived trajectory of the geopolitical climate.
 

feilinreg

New Member
Registered Member
No need to wait, the effects are already visible today.
10 destroyers were launched last year (8 052d + 2 055)
No more than 3 will be launched this year (1 052d +2 055)
That means you'll see a massive slump after 2021-22 commissioning of these ships.
Yes, all the 8 055s and 25 052Ds will be commissioned by 2023.
 

Tam

Major
Registered Member
I don’t think the pace is really abating. We might get a short term slump as the yards regroup and start laying down new hulls, but my guess is planners have assumed these tensions aren’t going away just to be on the safe side, which means they’ll be committing to a much more rapid force build up as a hedge position. The planned fleet size might have grown a lot too, in response to their perceived trajectory of the geopolitical climate.
Every once in a while the PLAN appears to do a reevaluation of their projects so you are not going the wrong route down the long term. Its hard to know what goes on internally. Such gaps can lead to a transition to new models, e.g. 052E, 055A, and the like. Its also hard to say what goes on inside those factories if they are already building new modules for the next batches until these modules are wheeled out to the drydocks. If there is an urgency, they may already be cutting and pressing steel to build new modules inside those factories, with new orders to build engines, radars, guns, VLS and so on with the subcontractors. It may still take a while before all these would manifest in the drydocks.
 

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