Type 052C/052D Class Destroyers


yuxiaochen

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The progress seems not fast enough. Ideally Chinese navy should be getting at least 10 new Type 052D every year to counter US aggression.
LOL dude, please stop with the nonsense, if the Chinese navy were to receive at 10 type 052s, they will need at least 3 shipyards to simutaniously construct, install components, and sea trial these ships. Plus they need to have at least the adquate amount or maybe even double of officers to graduate each year from the naval academy.
 

Tam

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Trying to make count. I don't think 2nd DD and 6th DD will get new ships.


9th Destroyer Division SSF -- 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175
No new ships coming? Along with the 6th, this is the most experienced destroyer division in the PLAN.

6th Division ESF --- 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156 Zibo (latest)
Awaiting
157 Nanning --- 052DL currently in Jiangnan.

Getting new ships

10th Destroyer Division NSF. Formerly all Ludas, making it a butt joke within the Chinese Navy. Now its all getting a bunch of new ships. Transition from 051 to 052D, which is a huge gap in technology, is taking a while. With the exception of 122 Tangshan, every 052D of this division comes from Dalian. Not sure why.

New ships
119 Guiyang (not sure if this ship is 1st or 10th)
120 Chengdu -- This ship, and with 119, is being used to train and transition Luda division to 052D
121 Qiqihar -- Sitting on Dalian waiting for the 10th to get it.
122 Tangshan -- Finished trials, and waiting for the 10th to get it. Sitting in Jiangnan
123 --- 052DL in Dalian
124 --- 052DL in Dalian

3rd Destroyer Division ESF. Previous ships
131 --- 052D
136 --- Sov, now refit
137 --- Sov, now refit
138 --- Sov
139 --- Sov

This destroyer division is being overhauled to 052D standard. Next ships
132 --- 052DL Suzhou on trials
133 --- 052DL in Jiangnan
134 --- 052DL in Jiangnan

2nd Destroyer Division SSF. Current ships
161 Hohhot --- 052D
167 Shenzhen --- 051B refit
168 Guangzhou --- 052B currently in active for refit
169 Wuhan --- 052B, still active

Recently retired
165 --- This is a Luda
166 Zhuhai --- Also a Luda.

Now it has free numbers from 162 to 166. Three will be filled.
162 --- 052DL in Jiangnan
163 --- 052DL in Dalian
164 --- 052DL in Jiangnan

1st Destroyer Division NSF. Current ships
101 055 Nanchang
112 052 Harbin
113 052 Qingdao
115 051C Shenyang
116 051C Shijiazhuang
117 052D Xining
118 052D Urumqi
119 052D Guiyang (not sure if this is 1st or 10th).

I have seen this list given for 055 but they seem speculative.

Jiangnan Shipyard
Ship #1 101 Nanchang, in active service
Ship #2 102 Lhasa, to be commissioned
Ship #5 103 Anshan, being outfitted
Ship #7 104 X X, being outfitted

Dalian Shipyard
Ship #3 105 Dalian, under sea trial
Ship #4 106 Yanʼan, being outfitted
Ship #6 107 Zunyi, being outfitted
Ship #8 108 X X, under section assembly at dry dock

These numbers would suggest all 8 ships are going into the NSF with the 1st Destroyer Division. I kind of having doubts that all these ships are going to the 1st, unless you are anticipating a mass exit of four ships, namely the veterans 112, 113, 115 and 116. This will free manpower and port facilities.

This large concentration of 055 to me in the north points to carrier CV17 and possibly even CV18, will be permanently stationed in Qingdao.

It won't make sense to have CV17 Shandong stationed in Hainan, which is the home of the 9th Destroyer Division, when the 9th, although an experienced group, isn't getting any new ship, 052DL or 055.

Unless of course, some of the pennants are wrong.

If any new 052DL or 055 goes to the 9th and stationed in Hainan, the pennant will fill 176, 177, 178 and 179. The lack of any planned 052DL going to the 9th, suggests to me 176 to 179 might be all 055 in the future if a carrier will be stationed there, and this is the only other port in China that can host one other than Qingdao. Already one of the Type 901 is stationed in that base.

So you have alternative paths with carrier and 055 deployment. Where the 055 will go, that's where the carrier will follow. Where the carrier goes, that's where the 055 will follow.

I am also inclined that there might be a ratio of 4 055 to 1 carrier, the current 8 will satisfy the two existing carriers. For 003, its going to call for another batch of four 055.
 
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Deino

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The progress seems not fast enough. Ideally Chinese navy should be getting at least 10 new Type 052D every year to counter US aggression.

Please do us a favour! STOP with this BS and RE-READ the rules - aka stupid one-liner replies with fan-boyish chest bumping content like "we need more" - are not allowed!

We are not a fan-boy forum.

Otherwise I have that strange feeling that you are the same one from PDF and if YES, please beware ... a similar stupid behaviour will NOT BE tolerated here.
 

Josh Luo

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Registered Member
Jiangnan Shipyard
Ship #1 101 Nanchang, in active service
Ship #2 102 Lhasa, to be commissioned
Ship #5 103 Anshan, being outfitted
Ship #7 104 X X, being outfitted

Dalian Shipyard
Ship #3 105 Dalian, under sea trial
Ship #4 106 Yanʼan, being outfitted
Ship #6 107 Zunyi, being outfitted
Ship #8 108 X X, under section assembly at dry dock
I see three city names with political symbolism (Nanchang, Yan'an, Zunyi). If I'm not wrong, there are some significance of Anshan to the PLA Navy as well. 055 class seems to have taken all the fame.
 

wangfty

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I see three city names with political symbolism (Nanchang, Yan'an, Zunyi). If I'm not wrong, there are some significance of Anshan to the PLA Navy as well. 055 class seems to have taken all the fame.
"Anshan" was the name of the very first destroyer served in PLAN in 1954 with original pennant number 201, which later changed to 101 in 1974, and retired in 1992. It is the first of the four used destroyers China purchased from Soviet Union in 1950s.
 

Tam

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"Anshan" was the name of the very first destroyer served in PLAN in 1954 with original pennant number 201, which later changed to 101 in 1974, and retired in 1992. It is the first of the four used destroyers China purchased from Soviet Union in 1950s.
Anshan-class_destroyer_Qingdao_Naval_Museum.jpg

The four destroyers are Anshan, Fushun, Changchun and Taiyuan. All four are now museum ships. If these sound familiar, they are also game ships in a famous mobile game.

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Taiyuan has been taken up by 052D destroyer and Changchun by 052C. Fushun has not been taken up ever since, and I am hoping, the last of the eight Type 055 destroyers will take up this name.
 
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feilinreg

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Trying to make count. I don't think 2nd DD and 6th DD will get new ships.


9th Destroyer Division SSF -- 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175
No new ships coming? Along with the 6th, this is the most experienced destroyer division in the PLAN.

6th Division ESF --- 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156 Zibo (latest)
Awaiting
157 Nanning --- 052DL currently in Jiangnan.

Getting new ships

10th Destroyer Division NSF. Formerly all Ludas, making it a butt joke within the Chinese Navy. Now its all getting a bunch of new ships. Transition from 051 to 052D, which is a huge gap in technology, is taking a while. With the exception of 122 Tangshan, every 052D of this division comes from Dalian. Not sure why.

New ships
119 Guiyang (not sure if this ship is 1st or 10th)
120 Chengdu -- This ship, and with 119, is being used to train and transition Luda division to 052D
121 Qiqihar -- Sitting on Dalian waiting for the 10th to get it.
122 Tangshan -- Finished trials, and waiting for the 10th to get it. Sitting in Jiangnan
123 --- 052DL in Dalian
124 --- 052DL in Dalian

3rd Destroyer Division ESF. Previous ships
131 --- 052D
136 --- Sov, now refit
137 --- Sov, now refit
138 --- Sov
139 --- Sov

This destroyer division is being overhauled to 052D standard. Next ships
132 --- 052DL Suzhou on trials
133 --- 052DL in Jiangnan
134 --- 052DL in Jiangnan

2nd Destroyer Division SSF. Current ships
161 Hohhot --- 052D
167 Shenzhen --- 051B refit
168 Guangzhou --- 052B currently in active for refit
169 Wuhan --- 052B, still active

Recently retired
165 --- This is a Luda
166 Zhuhai --- Also a Luda.

Now it has free numbers from 162 to 166. Three will be filled.
162 --- 052DL in Jiangnan
163 --- 052DL in Dalian
164 --- 052DL in Jiangnan

1st Destroyer Division NSF. Current ships
101 055 Nanchang
112 052 Harbin
113 052 Qingdao
115 051C Shenyang
116 051C Shijiazhuang
117 052D Xining
118 052D Urumqi
119 052D Guiyang (not sure if this is 1st or 10th).

I have seen this list given for 055 but they seem speculative.

Jiangnan Shipyard
Ship #1 101 Nanchang, in active service
Ship #2 102 Lhasa, to be commissioned
Ship #5 103 Anshan, being outfitted
Ship #7 104 X X, being outfitted

Dalian Shipyard
Ship #3 105 Dalian, under sea trial
Ship #4 106 Yanʼan, being outfitted
Ship #6 107 Zunyi, being outfitted
Ship #8 108 X X, under section assembly at dry dock

These numbers would suggest all 8 ships are going into the NSF with the 1st Destroyer Division. I kind of having doubts that all these ships are going to the 1st, unless you are anticipating a mass exit of four ships, namely the veterans 112, 113, 115 and 116. This will free manpower and port facilities.

This large concentration of 055 to me in the north points to carrier CV17 and possibly even CV18, will be permanently stationed in Qingdao.

It won't make sense to have CV17 Shandong stationed in Hainan, which is the home of the 9th Destroyer Division, when the 9th, although an experienced group, isn't getting any new ship, 052DL or 055.

Unless of course, some of the pennants are wrong.

If any new 052DL or 055 goes to the 9th and stationed in Hainan, the pennant will fill 176, 177, 178 and 179. The lack of any planned 052DL going to the 9th, suggests to me 176 to 179 might be all 055 in the future if a carrier will be stationed there, and this is the only other port in China that can host one other than Qingdao. Already one of the Type 901 is stationed in that base.

So you have alternative paths with carrier and 055 deployment. Where the 055 will go, that's where the carrier will follow. Where the carrier goes, that's where the 055 will follow.

I am also inclined that there might be a ratio of 4 055 to 1 carrier, the current 8 will satisfy the two existing carriers. For 003, its going to call for another batch of four 055.
The numbers of 055s are not confirmed. I assume the 1st and 9th divisions will share the 8 055s, not matter what number they are given.
 

Tam

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Registered Member
The numbers of 055s are not confirmed. I assume the 1st and 9th divisions will share the 8 055s, not matter what number they are given.

Their pennants should reflect that when the time comes. The 055 pennants for the 9th division should be 176, 177, 178 and 179, assuming they are not given to 052DL past the 25th.
 

feilinreg

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Their pennants should reflect that when the time comes. The 055 pennants for the 9th division should be 176, 177, 178 and 179, assuming they are not given to 052DL past the 25th.
055 does not follow the same rule, like the 055 for North fleet starts from 101. If you are right, the first 055 should have a pennant number 119 or 120. The 055s for South Fleet may start from 181, or just continue after the North fleet, having 105 106 107 108.
176, 177, 178 and 179 will be reserved for 052-series of 9th division.

As far as I understanding, the destroyer of PLAN is classified two level, 1 large destroyer, the commander is vice division or brigade level. 2 destroyer, the commander is regiment level.

For the pennant numbers of regiment level destroyers
131-139 belong to 3rd division
150-159 6rd division
161-169 2rd division
170-179 9rd division
119-129 10rd division

101-??? are for the large destroyers
 

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