Trump 2.0 official thread

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manqiangrexue

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Michael90 said:
No, they have had an active anti American stance which they actively cultivated and publicly display openly. It’s not something they hide, so how can you say they are not against the US? They don’t need to send a missile or fighter jet towards the US/West simply because they don’t have the capabilities and means and they are too poor and weak vis a vis the US. Reason I said they are stupid for actively going against the US/West in their foreign policy, since it just attracts unwanted attention.
let me take a more realistic/personal example to show how stupid this sounds , Would you as a man be willing to go and start talking back and standing up to say Mike Tyson at his peak or say the Klishko/Antony Joshua etc today? I’m sure you won’t because you know they can easily beat you to death. So adopting a more friendly, diplomatic, conciliatory approach towards them will be the way you will act irrespective of how they behaved towards you right? that’s not being a coward , that’s being smart, realistic and pragmatic . Only a fool will willingly provoke a giant when he doesn’t have the capabilities to match that giant .
same way Chinas smaller neighbours would be big fools to go against/provoke China if they didn’t have the backing of a bigger giant like the US backing them (yes I’m looking at you Philippines, Taiwan. lol ).
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The more examples you give, the more you say that you personally prefer to be bullied and don't understand why anyone else would fight. It may surprise you but there are many people in the world who will stand up and fight some Mike Tyson/blah blah who walks into their house and starts to push them around. Some people will plan to kill them with traps or weapons and others will train to be stronger than they are. Yet others would rather die in a fight than be made someone's slave. You clearly have absolutely no grasp of the concept and anything other than kneeling to those stronger seems alien to you.
 
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Eventine

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The US has always been a bully, and it is very much a refreshing mask-off moment for it to be led by an universally recognized bully in Trump. The Democrats' constant hiding behind liberal values and democratic principles, and their consistent gas lighting of their enemies, which unfortunately was actually believed by many of the less informed around the world, was much more annoying. During the Biden and Obama years I'd constantly get into arguments with people who truly believed the US was the "light of civilization." This happens much less now, it's great because finally we're on the same page when discussing world affairs and power politics.

With moves like the one he pulled in Iran and now Venezuela, Trump will usher in a new, muscular view of the US around the world, which is not based on ideology but on transactional benefits. Such a world is, in my estimate, easier for China to navigate, not harder, since it is fundamentally aligned with the Chinese world view.
 
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