The secret to Chinese sucsess

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Jones Henry

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What do you think is the reason for Chinese economic success?

I think the main reason is that they have discovered what makes the west so great;R&D!

For instance Britain could beat both China and India in the 1800's because it had strong economy, but the reason for that was basicly R&D! The British for instance found out how to produce almost unlimited supplies of iron, when they learned to make the coal needed to do that from mineral coal. Before that civilizations had for centuries used coal got from cutting and burning down the forests. So, by the 1700's and the 1800's coal and wood was VERY expensive in Europe, and for instance countries like Sweden(Finland was a part of Sweden still at the time)and Russia got A LOT of money from transporting there wood suply in to the west. Without for instance this knowledge Britain, with hardly any wood left basicly wouldnt have made it either economicly or militarily.

When the British learned how to get the coal they needed from mineral coal instead of the forests, they could build up an ENORMOUS iron industry! And then there were also the textile industry and so on. R&D is the secret to economic development, not necessarily open markets and western "capitalism" wich acually are more of a side products of it, then the secret to wests suchcess itself!

If China is to succeed, she must have the worlds best R&D. This means for instance advancement in nano technology. I think, that R&D can help China in many fields. For instance against a war with America sheer ecnomic power will not be enough! China can build a thousand ships, wich america still can destroy with only one(MIRV)missile. Dont be fooled by Americas lies China:ecnomic power is good, but it it's not good enough!

In order for China to beat America, China must have atleast as good R&D as the US! Strong R&D also means strong economy, since R&C(Research and development)can also help the civilian and economic sector. If China wished to win America, then the ONLY way to do that is to have WMD:s, LOTS of them! Ofcourse China also needs good convential armed forces! Conventional armed forces are vital in case a conflict breaks. Both sides(or atleast wise and peaceloving China)will then try to limit the confortation, so it will first be convential, so this is why China needs good convential forces. But of the going gets ROUGH, then China needs WMDS! GOOD WMDS!

I think, that the future of WMDS:s is on many fields, but one of them is definelty bioweapons. Now you will probobly say, that i am MAD and need to permanently banned, since no SANE person would acually be talking about using biological weapons against the enemies troops and civilians!

And i ask you why not? There effective are they not? They are also quite cheap compared to trying to build a military power peer to peer to America. In South-Africa the local apartheid government started a BIG program already in the 1980's to make new generation biological weapons, that could target there victoms throw race. The project basicly failed, because the technology just wasnt there. The South-African racist apartheid government finally collapsed in 1994, and the project was then shut down. But the CIA captured some of the information, and started where the South-African government left the project. DO NOT BE FOOLED CHINA! Do not be fooled by Americas lies! They have been working extensively with there own bioweapons program for years! That is why they want to stop other countries from gaining acess to this technology;so they could keep it ALL TO THEM SELVES! Thes "western" commentaitors calling me a crazy America basher are just brainwashed by there racist neonazi American government;there country has absolutely the most biggest aresenal of modern WMD:s belive you me, but there people are brainwashed in to beliveing americans are the "chosen people", so they are the ONLY ONES in the world who should have that power, not forinstance China, wich people have lived in there land THOUSANDS OF YEARS before the first white man set his foot on Americas soil(and brutally murderd the original inhabitants of that great land!)

China MUST get acess to modern WMD:s! This is BIG stuff!!! And not just old nukes! I'm talking about bioweapons, than can choose there target by race(for instance hunt down and kill only caucasian people, or people of non mongoloid decent)If there ever is a war with America China will ultimately lose that war, but the war may never come, if America is afraid of China and wont even try it! This is just ONE out of MANY MANY modern WMD:s and WMD porjects! Just think if China with just a cople of missiles could take out the hole US navy, and not have ANY of it's own people killed in the process! Surdenly China would use that power, do you think not? Modern WMD:s are cheaper than arming over 100-million people in to protecting China, and A LOT more effective! This is just one thing that can be acomplished throw modern R&D! Ofcourse China also needs economic power, but she should not consentrate all her power on economic growth and industrialasasement! China needs economic power, but that alone is not enough! The king of Persia had in 333 a.c 10 TIMES more money to use then Alexander the great, but he still lost! King Dareios the third may have had the money to fight that war, but Alexander had the KNOW HOW! The weapons of the future do not need a massive military industrial complex because they are relatively small. For instance the US only needs to fire about 100 MIRV nuclear missiles to kill half of the people in China(it's flowersin but overcrouted coastal cities) So, the US only needs LESS THEN 1% OF IT'S ENTIRE ARSENAL to totally whipe out China from the map, see what i mean?

So, economic groth simply wont only do it China! Ecomic growth can only work with good R&D For instance China needs a way to start using alternative energy sources. The US is falling behind in R&D and that is why they invadet Iraq, because they did not have the talent and the know how to start investing in alternative energy sources. So, the US is DOOMED because of failing in R&D, seen what i mean?

The west keeps braging to China how good it is, that they are growing and succeeding in economic growth. That is like congratulaiting a 16-year old that he finally learned how to read:roll: While China concentrated on making underpents and stocking for US:s markets, the US concentrates on the futures nano technology! In the future nearly half of Chinas 1,5 billion population may be unemployed do to increasing automation. China also needs knowledge on genetics if she is to have MUCH better rice harvest to feed her over 1-billion population! So, the secret to ALL sucsess is good R&D! Ofcouse the west will be VERY pissed off at China if she starts catching them up in R&D. They will want China to "clarify her intetions in Asia" yeat the US would NEVER tell China there REAL intetions in the middle-east! The west WELL KNOWS, that if China-India will ever catch up the EU-USA in R&D, then they will be FINISHED!!! Superiotity in R&D also means military superiority! For instance if China knew how to make good and effetice Biological and EMP weapons, then she could both poison the US troops and destroy all the circuits in there expensive high tech toys! If China could also build WMD:s that could reach USA:s own soil, the US would probobly be a little more careful on how they treat China. China and Russia should also start there own antimatter project, since the US:s airforce allready has there on the way. China could also build small tactical weapons, like the once the CIA uses, but only smaller. The US might try to destoy Chinas nuclear weapons before theyd ever had the change to leave there silos, so to counter this China might need bio weapons to back up there plan. China could also set up small bombs in the US and possibly blow them up throw satelite or some other device, but China ofcouse should also focus on super sonic missiles and jets and new stealth technology. If China concentrates most of there free resources in R&D and succeeds, then the world will soon have atleast two super powers, and the US will just have to start living with that. If China has a good R&D she can have a modern army like the US, and send it for instance to the midle-east with Russia to fight USA, if they get out of line in there. This way China-India could finally force the western imperialists back to Europe and America and make sure they also STAY there! But China CANNOT do this without good R&D! The Amerians will probobly try to trick you in to an amrsrace and building more and more ships, but i think you shoudnt fall for that! With good R&D China will also come more and more independent(for instance modern bio technology to be used in farming and nano manufacturing for manufacturing purposes)and wont need the west as much as before. The hole western systems has for the past 500-years been based on having better R&D then anyone else. Only when China and India(for instance by turning western countriens against one another?)have good modern R&D they can TRULY break themselves away from the dominance of the west. Only THEN will China-India truly be independent and free!
 

MIGleader

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way too hard to read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can u give a summary?
 

JZXT

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It is more capitalistic than the US in some cases. But major industry still control by the state, financial, steel, heavy industry.

This way China-India could finally force the western imperialists back to Europe and America and make sure they also STAY there

Wishful thinking, China and India are very Suspicious of each other. Not to mention the border dispute, and the war fought for those land. Even with the two leaders of each countries met earlier this year and further cooperation in both economic and other area, it will be a long road ahead.
As the US is being more friendly toward India, this will heighten China's guard and more suspicious. And they are also competitors in vast # of durable goods exported to other countries.

Read more about history before making unrealistic claims and with basis.
 

Gollevainen

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hats of to (Jones) Henry

hey, you so called 'respected' members! Though this Jones henry hangs on the edge of permanent banning, at least he still writes down his opinions. Thats the whole idea of this forum, this isent any chatroom. So if i spot anybody else writing down a oneliner post complaining that somebody's writing too long text, I WILL BAN HIM INSTANTLY!!:nono: , for disobeying the forum rules, and disrespecting the moderation/administration team! Got that?
 

Jones Henry

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JZXT said:
It is more capitalistic than the US in some cases. But major industry still control by the state, financial, steel, heavy industry.



Wishful thinking, China and India are very Suspicious of each other. Not to mention the border dispute, and the war fought for those land. Even with the two leaders of each countries met earlier this year and further cooperation in both economic and other area, it will be a long road ahead.
As the US is being more friendly toward India, this will heighten China's guard and more suspicious. And they are also competitors in vast # of durable goods exported to other countries.

Read more about history before making unrealistic claims and with basis.


I think a China-India alliance will soon be a reality, and the US will have to just start living with that! China and India have far more in commen then they have with the US!
 

Jones Henry

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MIGleader said:
way too hard to read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can u give a summary?


Sorry MIGleader:( I will try.

I think China needs both strong economy and good R&D China dosent need to totally invent there R&D on there own;they can always "borrow" some knowledge from India, Japan, Israel, Russia, EU...

With strong ecnomy and good R&D China will become more self sufficient and les dependent on the "west" and the evil empire USA. I think China should also forge an alliance with India. A Sino-Indian equal allaince could then promote both political, economic and also military power of the third world, and free them from the EU-USA influence. With almost peer to peer technology with the west they would have great economy and military, so the west wouldnt risk going in to a war with them. Good R&D means good ecnomy, since it means better manufacturing and for instance stronger food production. With good R&D China can also put les money on the military, since it will be based on WMD:s and MAD(Muturually assured destruction) and in this case not even USA will try to mess with her! See what i mean:china:
 
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