Terror Attack in Paris, 13 November 2015


FORBIN

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Paris Terror Attacks Leave Awful Realization: Another Massacre

PARIS — The night was chilly but thick with excitement as the big match between France’s national soccer team and archrival Germany was underway at the national stadium in a northern suburb of Paris. President François Hollande watched with the crowd as the French players pushed the ball across midfield.
The symmetry could not be more jarring. A Parisian year that began with the bloodshed and chaos of the terrorist attacks at the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo and later at a Jewish grocery now had an even deadlier coda: With events still fluid and exact details unclear, the authorities said more than 100 people had been killed in a series of attacks across Paris. And dozens of people were taken hostage at a Parisian theater

The urgent, bleating screech of sirens filled the evening air as police cruisers raced through the streets, uncertain if more mayhem was to come. Taxis ferried people home without charge as the police advised residents to stay inside. Ambulances screamed down the boulevards, as a stunned and confused French capital was again left to wonder: Why us? Once again?
“Paris has been hit again by terror tonight,” Deputy Mayor Patrick Klugman said on Twitter
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FORBIN

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Actualy 120 dead and 200 wound !!!

PARIS — The band had been playing to the crowd at one of this city’s most popular music venues, the Bataclan, for about an hour. The 150-year-old music hall was sold out for the show by the American group
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Witnesses said the attackers also threw grenades into the crowd.
“When they started shooting, we just saw flashes,” a witness named Gwen told French BFM-TV. “People got down on the ground right away. It was all dark.”

In the scramble to survive, people climbed into the upper boxes of the hall, or cowered under seats. The musicians quickly fled the stage.
“It was a scene of carnage,” Julien Pearce, a radio reporter who was inside the Bataclan, told Europe 1 radio.

The music hall can seat up to 1,500 people, but it was unclear how many were inside when the attack began. Some of the spectators managed to escape out back exits, but for minutes the gunmen shot unimpeded.

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posted an update on Facebook from inside the theater: “Alive. Just some cuts. Carnage. Bodies everywhere.”

Mr. Pearce told CNN that he saw two of the men enter and begin to fire randomly. He said the gunmen wore black and said nothing. They simply fired indiscriminately into the crowd. Mr. Pearce said that when he walked out into the street, he saw 25 bodies on the ground.

“It lasted for 10 minutes, 10 minutes, 10 horrific minutes when everybody was on the floor covering their heads and we heard so many gunshots, and the terrorists were very calm, very determined, and they reloaded three or four times their weapons,” Mr. Pearce said.
At around 10 p.m. the gunmen began rounding up survivors, holding them as hostages as dozens of police officers massed outside. For more than two hours a tense standoff prevailed, with more and more police arriving at the scene, enlarging the tense perimeter around the music hall in the city’s 11th Arrondissement.

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kwaigonegin

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I'm sure forbin can speak more on it however there is a huge underclass of Muslims in France. Many if not most of them were 'acquired' during the earlier colonization of North Africa. Others came later.
These population are largely marginalized and the liberal policies of France in general contradicts the more conservative beliefs and lifestyle of this group. These further marginalized them and most have a hard time acclimatizing and assimilate with the rest of the country.
I believe this is one of the primary causes of euro terrorism by homegrown Muslims. With ISIS influence and propaganda via social media etc. it is not difficult to see why many of these young men, mostly poor, unemployed, angry to lash out at the country/culture which adopted their parents.
 

Brumby

Major
I'm sure forbin can speak more on it however there is a huge underclass of Muslims in France. Many if not most of them were 'acquired' during the earlier colonization of North Africa. Others came later.
These population are largely marginalized and the liberal policies of France in general contradicts the more conservative beliefs and lifestyle of this group. These further marginalized them and most have a hard time acclimatizing and assimilate with the rest of the country.
This is an example of why the idea of taking in more Muslim refugees is a concern for many within Europe. If after two generations, the divide in culture cannot be bridged, then it would suggest to me that the differences are so deep that it may not be a practical possibility. The issue always seem to be the solutions have to be provided by others and there is a denial that the source may well be within themselves. I have lived in a Muslim country for more than 30 years and I know firsthand how easily the religion itself can be politicised
 

dtulsa

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Not only there but here as well their is a very deep concern about the pres. wanting to accept up to 100000 refugees my thinking is those plans have pretty much been destroyed now in the wake of this attack
 

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