Shenyang next gen combat aircraft (?J-XDS)

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enroger

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According to the video, split ailerons are right in the area where lambda wing stalls while the AMWT is outside the stall area.

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What is shown in this figure is specific to Lambda wing. What I was trying to say was that AWT may even have advantage against split aileron outside of the context of Lambda wings, though I'm not entirely sure. Sorry my sentence was not clear

Edit: The reason I think AMT maybe superior to split ailerons in general is that:

1, The response is "snappier", AMT at critical angle can induce drag more rapidly then split-ailerons.

2, At high AoA, the upper lips of split-ailerons is more obscured by the main wing relative to incoming airstream. While AWT can be pitched at their critical angle at pretty much any AoA.
 
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enroger said:
What is shown in this figure is specific to Lambda wing. What I was trying to say was that AWT may even have advantage against split aileron outside of the context of Lambda wings, though I'm not entirely sure. Sorry my sentence was not clear

Edit: The reason I think AMT maybe superior to split ailerons in general is that:

1, The response is "snappier", AMT at critical angle can induce drag more rapidly then split-ailerons.

2, At high AoA, the upper lips of split-ailerons is more obscured by the main wing relative to incoming airstream. While AWT can be pitched at their critical angle at pretty much any AoA.
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I see. My (very uneducated) guesses are AMWTs have worse stealth characteristics and more complicated control laws than split-ailerons.
 
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zbb said:
I see. My (very uneducated) guesses are AMWTs have worse stealth characteristics and more complicated control laws than split-ailerons.
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I don't think AMT's stealth characteristics will necessarily be worse.

Torque acting directly on the wingtips means high aerodynamic efficiency, the required control surfaces and actuators are smaller than those of split-ailerons, and the directly exposed control surface area is smaller. Just like movable canards, its application is more affected by the super complex control law.
 
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A Bilibili modeler believes the J-XDS has three weapon bays, with the central bay offering ample space since it isn't constrained by the engine.
If this aircraft has only two weapon bays, I estimate it could carry up to eight PL-16 missiles at maximum capacity. However, if it also features a central bay, it could even accommodate heavy bombs.
 
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A Bilibili modeler believes the J-XDS has three weapon bays, with the central bay offering ample space since it isn't constrained by the engine.
If this aircraft has only two weapon bays, I estimate it could carry up to eight PL-16 missiles at maximum capacity. However, if it also features a central bay, it could even accommodate heavy bombs.
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I've always been saying. It'd be MASSIVE waste if they don't follow the central groove and carve a long, deep centreline IWB there.
 
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