PLAN Type 075 LHD discussion


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Il n'y a rien qui permet d'affirmer que le 3e porte-hélicoptères chinois Type 075 est déjà sur cale sèche. Voici une photo aérienne en date du 13 Décembre 2019, prise par un passager sur un avion commercial qui survole le chantier naval Hudong–Zhonghua. Image via bluefoxmd
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There is nothing to confirm that the 3rd Chinese Type 075 helicopter carrier is already in dry dock. Here is an aerial photo dated December 13, 2019, taken by a passenger on a commercial aircraft flying over the Hudong – Zhonghua shipyard. Image via bluefoxmd
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now I see by78, Yesterday at 7:12 AM posted the closeup
 

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Il n'y a rien qui permet d'affirmer que le 3e porte-hélicoptères chinois Type 075 est déjà sur cale sèche. Voici une photo aérienne en date du 13 Décembre 2019, prise par un passager sur un avion commercial qui survole le chantier naval Hudong–Zhonghua. Image via bluefoxmd
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There is nothing to confirm that the 3rd Chinese Type 075 helicopter carrier is already in dry dock. Here is an aerial photo dated December 13, 2019, taken by a passenger on a commercial aircraft flying over the Hudong – Zhonghua shipyard. Image via bluefoxmd
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now I see by78, Yesterday at 7:12 AM posted the closeup
Wow! That second Type 075 is coming along quickly. Soon enough the PLAN will have two of those babies...and they are good looking vessels too.

You watch...one day the PLAN will introduce a VTOL 5th generation strike fighter for their regular carriers that can also fly off of the Type 075 too. I am expecting it...and do not doubt that the Chinese are working on it and have the capability to make it work.

It may take a while, but I would not sell them short on any such project after what all they have accomplished in the last ten years.
 

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Wow! That second Type 075 is coming along quickly. Soon enough the PLAN will have two of those babies...and they are good looking vessels too.

You watch...one day the PLAN will introduce a VTOL 5th generation strike fighter for their regular carriers that can also fly off of the Type 075 too. I am expecting it...and do not doubt that the Chinese are working on it and have the capability to make it work.

It may take a while, but I would not sell them short on any such project after what all they have accomplished in the last ten years.
Oh, Jeff, you are still around and well. So glad to see you again.
 

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has China got a rotary wing UAV? if not they need one, like the Northrop Grumman MQ-8 Fire Scout

for Chinese marines they need ALOT of equipment not only warships

3 x LHD they need min 100 helicopters
8 x LPD they need min 50 helicopters and also 50+ LCAC

they need equipment and they need alot of it and nothing is suggesting they are any closer
 

Peter2018

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has China got a rotary wing UAV? if not they need one, like the Northrop Grumman MQ-8 Fire Scout

for Chinese marines they need ALOT of equipment not only warships

3 x LHD they need min 100 helicopters
8 x LPD they need min 50 helicopters and also 50+ LCAC

they need equipment and they need alot of it and nothing is suggesting they are any closer
Actually for the first batch of 8 LHD, they will need 250 helicopters.
 

Richard Santos

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has China got a rotary wing UAV? if not they need one, like the Northrop Grumman MQ-8 Fire Scout

for Chinese marines they need ALOT of equipment not only warships

3 x LHD they need min 100 helicopters
8 x LPD they need min 50 helicopters and also 50+ LCAC

they need equipment and they need alot of it and nothing is suggesting they are any closer

They don’t necessarily need to develop dedicated rotary wing UAVs. They can adapt the Z-9 for unmanned flight with a very large payload for a rotary wing UAV.
 

Richard Santos

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Wow! That second Type 075 is coming along quickly. Soon enough the PLAN will have two of those babies...and they are good looking vessels too.

You watch...one day the PLAN will introduce a VTOL 5th generation strike fighter for their regular carriers that can also fly off of the Type 075 too. I am expecting it...and do not doubt that the Chinese are working on it and have the capability to make it work.

It may take a while, but I would not sell them short on any such project after what all they have accomplished in the last ten years.

The Chinese LAH need something more like the Vh-22 Osprey, or a much higher performance compound helicopter, more than a VTOL fighter. A compound helicopter for LAH use can also have much wider application for both Chinese army and navy than a dedicated VTOL fighter, and also could probably be developed in much less time than a VTOL fighter.

The US flies VTOL fighters off of the amphibious assault ships because excessive and unhealthy political influence of the marine corp, and because the USN fights far from shore and needs to have organic air support for landings almost instantly available for unexpected crisis.

if the Chinese needs VTOL fighters to support amphibious operations or to reinforce fleet aircover, that would likely occur much closer to Chinese shores. Ships from which such VTOL fighters are launched need not operate as part of long distance fleet. So it makes much more sense for the Chinese to convert fast merchant container ships to operate VTOL in times of crisis than to obscure the clear missions of LAH by making them act as sea control ships as well.
 

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The US flies VTOL fighters off of the amphibious assault ships because excessive and unhealthy political influence of the marine corp, and because the USN fights far from shore and needs to have organic air support for landings almost instantly available for unexpected crisis.

if the Chinese needs VTOL fighters to support amphibious operations or to reinforce fleet aircover, that would likely occur much closer to Chinese shores. Ships from which such VTOL fighters are launched need not operate as part of long distance fleet.
Chinese navy requires both a heavy-duty helicopter and VTOL multirole fighter at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive in any way. Obviously the US isn't only one who consider these as light carriers. The most, if not all, of the LHDs are planned to accommodate deck fighters. The most striking and up-to-date examples are:

•Spanish Navantia's Athlas 26000 class (also known as Juan Carlos I class | 4 ships built, one planned and is being operated by 3 navies; Spain, Australia & Turkey)
•Italian Trieste is planned to accompany the sole light carrier of the nation, the Cavour
•Izumo class received the Cabinet approval to make necessary arrangements to convert into a proper light carrier (2 in service)

These nations does not have immediate plans to conduct amphibious operations across some ocean, far from home. A light carrier comes with a certain power projection capability which is aspired by the most. Furthermore, such capability would create a unique opportunity to strengthen the fleet formation via a 5th-gen fighter's astonishing sensor capabilities. If capable as an F-35B, some 3 fighters can provide some AEW capability, in absence of a proper one, on the unfamiliar seas.
 

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