PLAN Type 075 LHD discussion

Pika

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I think its clear

China is now here to challenge Western dominance

and it looks like they want to do it head on


with 8 x LPD and 3 x LHD plus 2 x STOBAR and 1 x CATOBAR this is by far the most capable fleet second to USN

now the fact they are building 3 x LHD simultaneously and like they built 4 x Type 055 at breakneck speed this shows they are sending a clear message

They didn't have to build that fast and they dont have to even sometimes do double launches but they do it

basically China is no a longer a economic power but now a fully blown naval power

LHD construction has really changed things

I would like to see 3 x Type 075 @30,000 tons and 3 x Type 075A @40,000 tons
First, I don't think that's the case. China is an export an economy. As such, trade routes needs to be secure. And you need a blue Navy to do that. Japan, South Korea, Australia, Saudi Arabia, and many EU countries are all export economies but unlike China, they have a US Navy securing their trades routes.
China's military build-up boils down to that fact.

US and China don't share the same interest so China has to build up their Navy just in case. The first step is dominating it's regional waters (the first two island chains) and then expanding to Indian Ocean afterwards which connects them to Med, Middle East, and Africa. Their ability to expand to the Pacific will be a side benefit from having a Blue Navy. (
And an effective Blue Navy needs a robust SSN and SSBN presence; those are more important than carriers. But before the Type-095 comes online in numbers, a Type 075 will be very important in providing ASW for their carries and other high value destroyers.

Eventually the Pacific will be important as new trade routes open up in the Arctic. This is where their alliance with Russia is also very important.


Second, as of now, their economy is slowing. That needs to be address or their build up will slow down.
 
First, I don't think that's the case. China is an export an economy. As such, trade routes needs to be secure. And you need a blue Navy to do that. Japan, South Korea, Australia, Saudi Arabia, and many EU countries are all export economies but unlike China, they have a US Navy securing their trades routes.
China's military build-up boils down to that fact.

US and China don't share the same interest so China has to build up their Navy just in case. The first step is dominating it's regional waters (the first two island chains) and then expanding to Indian Ocean afterwards which connects them to Med, Middle East, and Africa. Their ability to expand to the Pacific will be a side benefit from having a Blue Navy. (
And an effective Blue Navy needs a robust SSN and SSBN presence; those are more important than carriers. But before the Type-095 comes online in numbers, a Type 075 will be very important in providing ASW for their carries and other high value destroyers.

Eventually the Pacific will be important as new trade routes open up in the Arctic. This is where their alliance with Russia is also very important.
I don't think you guys disagree with each other. You're both saying that China will build a massive navy to defend its interests due to distrust of/antagonism from the USN.

Second, as of now, their economy is slowing. That needs to be address or their build up will slow down.
I don't think so. First of all, the build-up is planned with much of the funds sunk in years ahead of the actual build-up. Secondly, China's military spending is still a very low percentage of GDP, less than 2%, so it can actually still grow robustly for a while even if the economy stagnates, which is far from the case. Thirdly, even though there is a slowdown in the percentage of growth in the Chinese GDP, there is no slowdown in absolute value growth; if anything, absolute value is being added much much faster now at 6-6.5% than it was when China was growing at 13 or 9%. So every year, there is more absolute value that can be spent on a military build-up with current or even slower GDP growth. Therefore, I see no military slowdown in sight at all.
 
Second, as of now, their economy is slowing. That needs to be address or their build up will slow down.
And another point is that a growing economy and a growing military are measured by completely different standards. For an economy to be growing at 0%, that's stagnation; it's doing the exact same amount of business this year as last year and it's right on the brink of recession. An economy really needs to be growing to be healthy. A military build-up, on the other hand, is way different. If China commissioned 7 destroyers this year and used the same amount of funds next year because there was no increase in military budget (due to there being no increase in GDP) to commission another 7 destroyers, that is still break-neck speed build-up. Unlike the economy, you don't have to commission more warships every year than last year for your navy to be considered growing. As a matter if fact, even if growth rate technically contracts slightly, going from 7 to 6 or even 5, that's still an extremely fast and robust military build-up rate whereas economic contraction by those percentages indicate an economy in its death throes.
 

asif iqbal

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Beautiful shot from the well deck and hanger space

Let’s hope both spaces are utilised

Now doubt the 10 years of Type 071 LPD will come in handy

Much larger and more room in the LHD

Let’s also hope they don’t stuff the silly comic looking outdated Z8 with those cartoon nose cones from the 1960s in that hanger
 
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