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PLAN Type 075 LHD discussion

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Lieutenant General
The article you pointed out refers to the lack AEW assets that are organic to the LHA/LHDs and that they may have to depend on external provision for such need. This is entirely different from your assertion that the VTOL assets cannot conduct land attacks without them. The fact is the AV-88 has APG-65 radar with operating modes including ground target track (fixed/moving); air-to-ground ranging; real beam ground mapping (long range). It also has the AN/AAQ-28 Litening Pod Gen 4 and Integrated NAVFLIR, Dual-Mode Tracker. All these are the tools for land attacks and the AV-88 has a history of conducting such operations.
No the main argument was today's VTOL assets can not operate land attacks without AEW assets. Meaning that LHA/LHD can NOT operate as full force projection like a CVG by themselves.

Just like the article stated before:
An amphibious assault ship and its embarked Marine Expeditionary Unit is a combat system designed and optimized to project and sustain land power from the sea. This combat system is not designed to control the seas or the skies from which it operates. This mission is left to other parts of the fleet design (including the aircraft carrier).
 

Brumby

Major
No the main argument was today's VTOL assets can not operate land attacks without AEW assets. Meaning that LHA/LHD can NOT operate as full force projection like a CVG by themselves.
Just like the article stated before:
Your original assertion was that "VTOL assets can not operate land attacks without AEW assets". That is a binary question and your position was no. I have demonstrated with facts that the AV-88 clearly can conduct land attacks and have done so on numerous occasions. Whether a LHA can perform like a CVG in its full function has no relationship to your original assertion.
 

Deino

Lieutenant General
Staff member
Super Moderator
Your original assertion was that "VTOL assets can not operate land attacks without AEW assets". That is a binary question and your position was no. I have demonstrated with facts that the AV-88 clearly can conduct land attacks and have done so on numerous occasions. Whether a LHA can perform like a CVG in its full function has no relationship to your original assertion.

Can we leave out as in the carrier specific threads these constant speculations on missions, operational use and eventual aerial assets? We have dedicated threads for them or create a new one please.
 

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Lieutenant General
Your original assertion was that "VTOL assets can not operate land attacks without AEW assets". That is a binary question and your position was no. I have demonstrated with facts that the AV-88 clearly can conduct land attacks and have done so on numerous occasions. Whether a LHA can perform like a CVG in its full function has no relationship to your original assertion.
Apparently you didn't read the full article and have the bad habit of mixing people's words together in order to prove a point. What you have claim was V-88 does land mission, okay, so did they did that ALL by themselves without AEW assets? That conveys in my mind that the AV-88 can do land attack missions without AEW assets. Now as with China's LHD if they are doing land attacks it too will be traveling with the CVG because the carriers carries the AEW assets. LHD are mainly for marine expeditionary forces operating AFTER air superiority has been established. AND THAN you bring out your AV-88 types to come out and play. They are to provide combat support to the expeditionary forces.

Sorry moderator I have to clear something out. I think there's a miss communication or assumption that went on between me and Brumpy.
 
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